h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Its been my experience, been a man, that the females are the dominate of the two sexes. The bottom line is men do as they are told - the only way to escape the slavery that women impose on us is to lead single solitary life - they weave a web that few of us can escape. Our greatest weakness is our libdo - they have us by the balls

As a man, I couldn't disagree more.

Women still want the security of a man who is a problem solver, a protector, and a provider. Whenever I go somewhere with a woman, it is always I who ends up deciding where and when, no matter how much I ask for feedback. I always get a "I don't know" or "whatever you want to do." Despite the "sexual revolution," women still want to be the one approached at the outset of a relationship (I have known exactly one exception to this). I also have a good friend who is a division head at her company, and she has admitted that she is looking for a man who can "take care of me." She was referring to financial as well as the other ways, and she just had a pool installed.

Bottom line: women decided they wanted sensitive, nurturing men in the 80's. Then they got them, and they were disgusted. Now women are realizing they want real men again. The role of the Alpha male is alive and well, and isn't going away. That whole 80's "sensitivity" was really just backlash from the overexuberance of the women's movement. Femminism has been TOO successful. In the eyes of the law, the woman has all the rights, and the man has all the obligations. I know tons of men who have been impoverished by greedy, grasping ex-wives, and through no fault of their own. And yet the single gals out there wonder why men are afraid to commit. Seems only too obvious to me.

boys, the bad news is that girls got us by the emotions and feelings and there's no web or another escape
this grip is stronger than the balls one
the good news is that they still need us
of course there are exceptions which prove the statement

Mike sorry Bob (it is going to take me awile to get used to that) How did I know you would be here giving out your febal excuse for wisdom (point to me I think)
Sorry we go way back.

Iam going to say one thing on this matter and that is relationships of any descripion are two way. By that I mene that although it seems in any relationship that one partner is always domanant if the coupple break up both are unhappy (or relieved depending on the cercamstances) you will not actually et one side compleatly emoshanless.

Koolio! LOL!!! I have never gone fron the computer to 'real life'
with the exception of a friend from the UK who calls me...free of charge through her computer. The only other friendships I've made via the computer have only gone as far as e-mail. That's
why I've been trying to put Pete off...I'd be scared to death to actually meet someone in person! (no offense Pete) I hope you can find the answer from someone...perhaps Pete?!?

Hi, Pan!
As I understood you don't like to mix virtual & real things. May be you're right. But my question had and another side too - sex with or without emotions. Now I think I'm looking for an opinions on this issue. Because, you can imagine crazy women hungry for sex chasing an innocent boy - this is little bit frustrating , eh?
By the way what happened with your hot latino lover Pete ? I did not hear his napolis italian accent since years.
Pete, come sta seniogre, che succeso ?
Pan, although he goes after you in all the time you can't say that he's not a nice guy.
(Pete, I like to drink beer )

Hello Koolio, Yo're are correct. I do not like to mix RL & virtual.


Yes, I CAN imagine sex crazed woman chasing a poor innocent
boy. How awful for him. Perhaps you could tell him to ask his mamma what to do? Now whom are you suggesting is the frustrated party? The youg boy? Or the sex craxed women? HA!

Sex with or without emotions? I'd have to go with a yes or no answer to that. I'm a firm beliver in: 'each thing in it's own time'.

I'm sure Pete is having some type of RL experience. Do you miss him? He'll probably be back.

How old did you say you are??? Bet your easy on the eyes too.

There is nothing wrong with mixing vertual and R.L. I met my wife on line.
The only thing to rember if you ever do is to start the relationship from the begining in R.L unawise you are like to make a mistake.

I don't think there's anything WRONG with it either...it's just not what I want to do. Sorry, but I didn't quite understand that last part? What do you mean by you're likely to make a mistake? To what are you refering? Thanks....Pan

Oh, & for those fellows talking in generalizations again, about ALL women...tisk-tisk...thought we had ALL evolved a bit further than that! Perhaps many men & women are confused 'bout what they want & or how to go about getting what they think they want.
Could that be possible? I've NEVER tried to lead a fellow around by any body part! (and I don't need any help whatsoever taking care of my heated, in-ground diving pool...I change my own oil, etc. unless there's a really good deal & I don't feel like doing it...
same with rotating tires, belts all those 'manly' things. My dad taught me to be independent, when he wasn't busy beating my mom.) I do wish a few other ladies would jump in & help me out!
You're only getting my point of view & I don't think I represent the
average female. Idon't care if I 'break a nail', as I know it will grow back. Even though I do work on the mower, etc. I only wear skirts & dresses....it's what I like. It's all a matter of balance.

Well there is definetly some bitter men out there. I know some women that have taken their ex husbands for a ride. I don't agree but it happens. Generalizing is not fair. SOME people have certain traits good and bad it doesn't mean that all the women have control and it doesn't mean that all the men have control. I know a couple of guys that think the womans place is in the home and they expect that their supper should be on the table at a certain time. In my relationship we both help each other out. I mow the lawm or he does, who ever feels like making supper does. I must admit there are certain things that I cannot do! Not because I am a woman it is just because I am me and I do not have the physical strength to do certain jobs. Well there you go Pan!
Hoppa

I made a mistake when I got married and was divorced within the year becaus we bothe had this fanticy imadge of each other that neather of us could fill. We had some great arguments which ended up with the same things she was selfish and I was not at home enough, but not every relationship that I have started on the net has ended in disater.

Any Way I know some people who get divorced and are very bitter about it and I dont understant why. It is like eating a cake that you dont like and then never eating another cke of any decription because you did not like one.

Thank you Hoopa! I was feeling like the last rat on a sinking ship
there! LOL!!! I think it might be a good idea to try not to put all men nor all women in the same boat! We are ALL people...I'd like anyone to find two people who are exactly the same! Oh... that would be called cloning woudn't it? Must we be soooo
serious? Not all relationships are life or death. Some are just for fun!

I know I have great relationship going on now it great no pressure nothing at all. dont get me wrong we are comitted to eachother but we arnt looking for anything other than what we have its amazing

so anyway...women want to be secure....but not feel controled...men they want to feel important. the woman sets the tone/feeling/mood of the relationship.

rong (in my case any way) I dont care whether I feel important or not and I have et the tone/Mood pace and other things in many relation ships but we are going back to genraliseations and there is always problems with them.

I hope you don't think I was one of those bitter males, because I don't THINK I am. I'm very cautious about going down the aisle, and I think that caution has paid off so far, as I am still single and don't have to pay out half my wages to support a child I can never see and a former spouse whom I hate bitterly. When I said the woman has all the rights and the male has all the obligations, I was talking about in the eyes of the law. Men come out very badly in divorce court... the woman tends to get all the possessions and child custody, even when the breakup was entirely her fault. I've known a few guys who continue to pay child support AND alimony to a woman who cheated on them. So my reticence (and the reticence of most of the male population) stems from the fact that I have seen that marriage can be one of the most ruinous moves of a man's life. It is my intent to make sure, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that when I do surrender my bachelorhood, it is not the ruin of me.

As for all the people moaning about the woman having all the power in a relationship, I don't know what they're talking about. If someone or other has to have power, then it isn't a relationship. A relationship is a pairing of equals, with mutual respect. Most of the reason that I'm still single is that I have yet to encounter my equal... but I'm optimistic. And as for the sex thing... men fly solo through the first part of their sex lives, and if a woman begins to be too overbearing, he can always return to it. I love sex with a partner as much as anyone, but nobody has ever tried to use it against me as a weapon successfully. Plus, talking with some of my guy friends, I've discovered that women have a much harder time "doing without" than men do... a couple of guys challenged their wives, and their wives lost.

Ahhhhhhhh HA!!! Oh, please excuse me....I'm laughing so hard I can barely see to type! Sorry, I know you're all quite serious! But...oh my...Oh... & my favorite one was when the Colonel was talking about women being able to go longer than men...etc.! Ahhhhh HA!!! Er, guess what?!? Ladies do a bit of flying solo their damned selves Surprise
Guess I'd best stop whilts I'm behind...----- I do wish folks could understand that we are all different. Perhaps you "hear" about the same types of problems repeatedly because the owners of these troubles have similar personalities, thus creating or experiencing the same types of problems. I think you may be receiving your information from the vast 'minority'. Most differently yours, Pandora

Wow! Where to begin? Lots of stuff since I last came around here.

First of all, Eric, excuse me, but what ever happened to the constant search for excellence? Progress is an outdated concept? Oy! I find that when I reach a goal, there's always another one that I discover. I think you and I need a night over a buncha brews to hash all this out. But, you're right about one thing: I do have ultimate faith in human nature - not to avoid mistakes, but to make 'em and profit by 'em in the long run. I see us eventually spreading throughout the universe - like a plague or expanding toward a godhead - depending on your level of faith, I guess. By the way, do you listen to NPR?

Pan. My poor fragile little heart is broken Why did you tell me (us) your measurements if you're afraid to meet me? You tease!! But don't worry, I'm not that easily put off. And, for God's sake, don't be afraid of me! I'm actually really very normal and outgoing. I have met five people from online aquaintances - two men, three women. And I only had sex with one of them - I'll leave it up to your imagination which one LOL!! I didn't realize it was that many until I started thinking about it. They're all still alive and well, too, I'm happy to report. So, come on, sweetie! I will get to Cleveland one of these days... and watch out! I'll tell you this: I'm a lot more normal than that other 'friend' of yours who you described.

koolio: I guess it is time to touch on the nature of online relationships, isn't it? By the way, where IS that woman you met? Just kidding, Pan To be perfectly honest with you all, I did start chatting online in the hopes of scoring, particularly on my frequent business trips. As it's worked out, I have made some pretty strong personal friendships, and the sex has been minimal. To me, the internet community is like a big neighborhood or community where people with similar interests can actually more easily stike up aquaintances. But I've found that you really can't make aquaintances without getting to know people - maybe more than you intended. And when you get to know people, they become real and important.

Ok, koolio, so are you going to tell us what your native tongue is? I'm just curious because I am fascinated with language.

Ok, gotta go... Pan, you can't fight fate, sweetheart. BFN y'all

P.S. You all... I just really like Italian. Buon giorno, y'all!

Pan, I just read through the rrrrrrrrest of the postings. If you tell me you didn't miss me, I'll stop hitting on you. I promise.

koolio, maybe I should find out where you are and start hanging out with you!

As far as the rest of you, Pan's right. You're all trying to generalize from your own personal experiences... that's a logical falacy (falicy? phalicy? where IS the spell checker on this thing?)

Anyway, I really, really do have to go... this time I'm serious.