h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Hi Eric.

I don't know if I totally agree that we should make Western civilization more nurturing. I think the fundamental competitiveness of Western civilization is what has generated most of the progress the world has seen... yes, along with a lot of the wars (at least most of the ones we study in school - ever notice that a lot of other civilizations are just as combative, but we don't play them up?). I don't think you can have progress without strife... and that's not necessarily bad, either.

And I'm not so sure the world is on the brink of destruction from stupidity, either. Yes, we've made mistakes. But we've learned from them, and fixed a lot of them, and are fixing others. You don't make progress in a steady linear fashion. You make it by making mistakes and learning. I think we're doing that.

I do agree about not making assumptions, though.

Oh I still smile make jokes and whats the point in listaning to music I would much rather play it but that still does not change the fact that it is human natcher to be selfish. I would like to think that I am one of the few people that are not always thinking of ourselfs some people hardly think about themselvs at all. In my case my whole waking world is filled with my sister (another topic to long to get in to and not really a good idea to have it posted on the net I have had some sick basterd giving me hate mail over it as it is so I dont really want any more. Ithink what hurts me the moast about that is it is some one that I know to be using my other adress and not the common one I give out Which incadentally is [email protected] but as I said that is another topic) but alls that I am saying is that if we are going in to sweeping genraliseations is that people are basterds and we cannot really change it.

actually my life expectacy is abut 30 I live the moast unhelthy life stile imaginable, hardly anny sleep, over worked, little time for food of any kind and I just wont let myself rest It means I have to think to much
but other than that I am really a happy person I just dont sound it (dont try to work that one out because I cannot) I have been told I am a realist to the poind of being pessimistic just not quite. the only problem is I actually have the reserch to base all my statements about human nature on. I made the mistake of taking sociology and history at schooland when you actually put them both toger they give you a verry desterbing insite
(sorry i missed that bit out thelast messadge)

Any way on to happy things (depending on your point of vew of corse) I have finally got the time off work and 3 quarters of the mony to make my round trip of everyboddy you can expect a viset next year probberbly in the summer but I will let you know nearer the time.

Pete...side-bar, having blonde a moment?!? Tisk-tisk. Here I thought we we're trying to 'raise our h2g2 boys' with open minds! Let's watch what we say 'in front of the children' (don't get mad guys...just a little joke there)

Bob, Pete is right on the mark with regard to trying to have fun. Please don't set yourself up for dissapointment by expecting fun ALL the time. But life IS too wonderful not to enjoy it. If you remain depressed, please speak to a professional! Sometimes we are not always able to 'shake off' saddness. (therapists are like shoes, sometimes you must try on a few before you find the right fit!)

Koolio, of course comprimise works, as long as there is a true comprimise! i.e., both sides doing their bit to make a situation work.
One side doing ALL the changing just turns out mucked up!

Sleep deprivation has me by the brain!!! My Lawyer's office is on Walnut! Market St. is in Sandusky, on the way to Cedar Point (the back way in)...the amusement park you were speaking of. As a perk for a job
I was given an apt in Sandusky & found most of the traffic free ways to get about. I don't know how to become use to working the graveyard shift! I'm sooo sleepy! I just stopped in to get another blanket. I'm not working tonight. Brrr it gets cold in the woods. Did anybody see which way Summer went?

As for the Hotel in Philly...the one where I stay is right down town, It is the Double Tree & my freind 'Dot' told me it use to be called the Herhsey. It's likely they have more than one Hotel. And yes I was reading your words w/regard to that sexy kiss. Taking advantage of a tired, hungry, neglected 'girl' with thoughts of crab legs & good loven'...way to go Pete And saying such nice things about me too!
I like that in a man! I know you're just wanting a good time... but, you see...I just don't think I could do that to you. You seem like SUCH a fun fellow...& once you'd had THE best, you'd NEVER be satisfied again, and I just can't bring myself to do that to you
A blonde moment indeed! Back to the camp fire I go. The hammock is whispering my name...Valerie...come lay on me...must be male rope...
always there, just hanging around waiting to be used G-Night-Pan

I dont need a therapist I am actually a happy person just baleve me. Thrapists spent to much time on my child hood and trying to blame my perants and spending all their time saying I feel negleted becase they had to spend so much time with Jenny which is all utter crap. My whole problem is my little sister is dying and there is f**k all I can do about it. sorry I have just had the go get thrapy spech to much rcently. It is hard enough trying to convice the family I actually sleep some times Whiththout trying to hide thrapy as well. I will get over it in a few months I always do. now I am sorry but if you want to know everything you are going to have to e-mail it all starts to get messy past that and as I have said I have already made the mistake of letting the wrong person know about it.

Bob, nobdy is saying you need to tell us all your personal matters. We 'hikers' tend to form bonds rather quickly & just want you to know that we care about you. Okay? Are you asking me, or someone else to e-mail you? Speak up...take care Pan

salute girls & boys
it's hard to put all my contradictory feelings in one letter, but I'll try anyway
listen, bob. I have younger sister Jeny. We have big difference in the age 13 years
I grew her up as my own child. Now she's crazy teen and gives a s**t about mom,dad & me.
This is the way things happen. I just say a prayer sometimes for her. I'M SERIOUS.
So, please, do the best thing you are able to do, pray for her! I don't know you may be one day
you'll have a daughter. This will be your reward and soothe. We don't lose our beloved ones if
we remember them. We lose them only if no memory remains. Our friends are right when they
say you have to find a salvation in the love.
Pan, of course I'm not a native english - little bit mediterranian. Pete's right.
Pete, you have a beer from me,except if you wish something stronger. You remind me one man,
who has your attitude, even most of the values. His name is Peter.
Hey, too much coincidencies, but believe me I'm honest. I started to enjoy more and more this
conversation.

I would like you or any one else to e-mail me but only if you wont to. the whole thing is a real mess and there is nothing I or any one else can do about it so I have been devoting allot of my time to trying to find out who thinks it would be funny to send me mail calling me a murdera and unfortinatly I amgetting no where fast.
I am sorry about that last messadge I was not patant at all any way I was terd and not thinking straght (it happens to me allot usally about 2:30 am untill 5:00 am and then I go back to normal) I think my bigest problem was I cold not play it always carlms me down it a hell of a lot more fun and cheeper than thrapy try it lern how to play the gitare and piss off the naghbers

Any Off that I am having extreem amounts of fun waching ym brother try to impress people I think it is so funny. He is 18 and verry insecure about himself in every way shape and form its great. He spends mere time than moast whimmen (no disrespenct but whimmen usually take allong time getting readdy) getting himself all dressed up to go to the Pub. it is not like it is a party or anything we just go for a quiet drink its great fun.

Bob, I tryuely am sorry that you are being picked on by someone who is mental...as 'they' say . (I always wonder who 'they' are). But I hope you'll, one day, find it in your heart to forgive the person causing you ditsress...because they really do have (a) big problem(s)!!! That's just sick!!! I've been threaghtened before & it's a frightening thing!!! Still to this day I have to keep in touch with the Prosecuter from the County Seat, as a man there has said to me (in front of ALL types of people) that he'll NEVER be done with me & that he'll ALWAYS know where I am & how to 'get me' whenever he wants! Every now & then I get a string of phone calls-hang ups-& then I read a few days later that he's been picked up for driving while drunk or beating a woman! He & his oldest son have said they were going to kill my dog, burn my house down & other lovely things such as that. Then, after a bunch of threats he'd TELL me that I HAD to marry him! He even sued me for 370 thousand dollars 'for the loss of my services when I moved out of his house! Even though the judge ordered him to pay ME a thousand dollars (for my trouble HA!~) and NEVER have any contact with me directly or indirecly...he still has other people contact me! Like the Police!!! He'll say I vandalized his house! One time I'd just gotten home from being in the hospital & my boyfriend said there's a message from he Police in the town where I use to live...I said, "There is not!" Then I saw the light on the answering machine flasing. When I re-wound it-
sure enough it was a Cop wanting to know where I was on a certain night !!! The Detective said he knew that I didn't do whatever it was...I didn't even care to ask...but it was his job to follow up. HA~I tried to give the Detective my full alibi...he didn't even want to hear it...he said, "Look Mis______, I KNOW you didn't do it, so don'r be upset!" How could I NOT be, as this guy was still bothering me! And he sent me gifts for years...that was fun for me...I'd take-usually an apptment book with the logo of his company embossed on the inside & my name embossed in gold lettering on the outside.....I'd take a pan & burn the thing page by page & after it cooled down, I'd send it back to him: ATTN. Jerk, on the front of the package! He even had my picture made into bookmarkers that he would hand out to his clients!!!
Telling people I was his wife! SICK!!! But Ooo how I feel sorry for him! He's not right, mentally speaking, he's vrey ill. How sad!
Hope you can get past your anger!!! Who ever's bothering you isn't worth the effort you put into being upset.

Er, fella's you may want to watch your curse words here, as h2g2 IS touted as a 'family' site & if you keep swearing, you may find yourself suspended.. Remember-ANYbody can read your post!
So please don't get yourselves in trouble! I've gotten a warning for talking about getting high...even though it was during a 'virtual party'! and it was Pandora not me smoking the herb

Hey ...
I don't know what you folks have been saying in Postings 101 through 109, but the Internet Firewall where I work has blocked the page saying the content was unsuitable !!
That means I won't be able to see 101 through 120 until I get home tonight !

Sorry I just got angery. I have aready been band for a week but at that time I was in hospital so it did not affect me to much but still It was anoying I ges I need to controle myself more.

THat sounds desterbing has anything been don about him yet or is he still frr to make your life diffacult.

Pan, good morning, Sweetheart

Ah, touched a nerve there with the little blonde comment, eh? Well, you just have to give me an opportunity to make it up to you, sometime.

You're right, I am just a happy guy looking to have as much fun as possible. And if you're that good, you're being mean for depriving me. And depriving yourself too. I have been described as "every mother's son, every man's worst nightmare, and every woman's fantasy." Don't worry about the aftermath. After all, 'tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all, don'tcha think?

And as for being cold at night? ...or in the morning, or whenever it is you try to sleep... well, I am a furnace, too. In fact, sleeping with me, you need a good air conditioner. I'm most popular in the winter. People's thoughts wander to me, then. (Insert your most romantically erotic fantasy here.)

I'm sorry to hear about your 'ex-friend.' Sometimes, I have to believe in good, old-fashioned vigilanteism. A guy like that needs to have a visit from some friends of yours to have a gentlemanly discussion about why he should leave you alone. I know people who would love the opportunity for such a discussion. Unfortunately, they're all in Phila. Not that they'd mind an excursion to Cedar Point. Let me know. I could bring along some of my kick-boxing buddies too. We specialize in ending the escalation spiral.

So, don't plan a special trip here. Just let me know the next time a trip to Phila comes up for you, and I'll keep you posted as to whenever I get to Cleveland. We have an office there in the tallest building in downtown... on Public Square, attached to the Marriott (a very nice hotel *wink*). OK? Promise me?

And, ok, I know where you stay now. We call it the theater district (such as it is in Phila). It's a convenient location for restaurants, theaters, carriage rides, South Street (where freakazoids and yuppies intermingle amid kinky shops and elegant shops), and just walking around historic old Phila.

A più tardi, Caro *bacio*

Salut koolio

Mediterraneo, eh? OK, penso che sei italiano. Sì? Soltanto perché concludi il tuo nickname con un vowell. LOL. In ogni modo, la tua prospettiva internazionale è benvenuta alla nostra conversazione piccola.

Non pensi che Pandora sia molto sexy? Metto il suo nome lei per fare il suo pazzesco domandandosi che cosa sto dicendo di lei a voi.

Ciao!

OK, Bob. I understand now. It's ok to vent as long as you don't really believe that everyone in the world is a b*****d. I guess everyone is once in a while, and some people are all the time. But not everyone is all the time.

Aren't you too young to be hanging out and drinking in a pub? Do you want to only live to be 30? Believe me, there's still a lot of fun to be had after 30. (Glancing over to Pandora.)

And take it easy on the neighbors too, bud, with the guitar playing. I've been on the other side, and it's just not cool.

And I don't care if you listen to music, play it, or blow it out your butt. Just have fun doing it, whatever it is. (Of course, my most fun comes from being with beautiful, sexy women, but that's just me.)

And what is this with all these sleep-deprived people? I love sleeping (especially with....

So have I from the very people I am now anoying so it evens out.

Yes I am to young to be drinking in pubs but that has never stoped me before.

I actually do want to live past 30 but if I stay on form it is unlikly. To much stress work and other such joys.

Sleep deprivation is usefull it gives you a chance to finish everything and even gives me five minets rest I think i volentere for to much eather that or I have a to buisy sochal life but I am so I dont care

Hi Pete,

Of course you're at liberty to disagree with me; this is a perspective, contextural thing and I'll embellish my perspective a little for you: I'm talking about nurturing in the context of how we teach our children: emphasizing communications and win/win rather than win/lose situations: find out what the other person wants and having stated what I want let's see if there's a way for both of us to gain. (This is part of what h2g2 is based upon.)
I'm talking about instilling in people a sense of worthiness and usefulness; those kinds of people are far more active and involved in their lives and the lives of those around them: they contribute instead of draining the system. Sure, there will always be those that choose to be difficult...but there will be so many fewer of them.
I believe that the commercial model for selling us stuff we don't want is going to change dramatically, if it hasn't already, because of the rampant use of the Internet. For those that are really paying attention, touching customers individually and personally is the way to effectiveness (over the Net, anyway). The idea of making us feel bad enough about some part of ourselves that we're supposed to believe that this new product is going to make us feel good again is about fifty years old and so many people are conscious of this that it's feeling insulting by now.
Competition is a good thing: it makes everyone a little more civil, customer-oriented and usually produces top quality (who's going to come out and say 'we sell utter crap and are proud of it'?). BTW: the idea of progress is left over from the latter days of the Industrial Revolution, when there weren't nearly as many people to make a dent in the natural resources of the planet, and few people had very much anyway - How much longer can we keep that up? To me, 'progress' suggests an end result; I don't think there is one for this species....and if there is, we're not privvy to the answer (and I'm NOT talking about religion, either). There are too many parts of us that are still evolving......and the Internet is going to make a tremendous contribution to that evolution.

I think you may have a higher opinion of our species than I am often in command of....as often as I see the good in people, too often I"m made painfully aware of the crassness and idiocy that usually has a financial connection. Boy, did I ramble there?

Fruitbat

Rambling's fine, so long as it takes you (or the conversation) somewhere.
I could ramble for eons (especially about relationships), but I'll try to take it in nice easy chuncks.
I haven't been to H2G2 in over a year - I got addicted - and now I'm trying to pace myself - so not too much rambling for me (Thinks. Was that a ramble ?)
I guess I wouldn't have trouble with relationships if they were all at a business/professional level.

Welome back Orinocco 2, personal relationships are the ones that are the most fun!!! Try not to take so many things seriously!

Pete, Pandora sia malto bella!!! *tosses her long hair to one side so he can get a better look...36 (c)/ 22 /38 & working on that 38!*

Geez fellas have we really been that naughty? Orinocco couldn't even get us though the company firewall!

I really am amazed at how serious young men are these days. Why? Is it because you've been raised to be in touch with your emotions? The 1st three decades of my life were spent mostly on FUN!!! Remember fun? It's that stuff that makes you laugh, love & sleep better at night. Now, as I go into my 4th decade, I have been much too serious. And I'm here to put an end to it!!!
NEXT....(smile, it relaxes the smooth muscles ) Pandy

bravissimo, let's agree that your italiano e molto bene, but the last one who spoke italian in my familia was mio granpadre,so let's back to more common ground. Anyway, thank you for the warm invitation. As I guess you also have some mediterranian roots, eh?
Generally this is OK to impress ladies with this language, but when they start to behave like mediterranian ones, arhgh... Pan is a nice girl as far, but some mediterranian tendencies appeared in her measures . Afterwards, Pete, you have to speak French in order to inprove the situation.
Now to the real issue : relationships - you girls&boys might not believe what happened to me yesterday - a crazy lady found me in ICQ chat , made date and I was ...... by her in my house at the end. She was 32, hot fury, passion etc. She wanted sex, not an emotional relationship, I tried to provide it and I failed. Still cant believe if this really happened to me. So, please, tell me something about your experience in this virtual-to-real relations. I think I still miss something.