h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Actually I dont call any one sir or maddom. And for some reason people who want to sell me credic cards are calling me Sir. (about three seconds before I tel them to get lost I alredy have enough debt as it is)

I should never have put tht In (the confused thing I mean) I dont object to anything any one says at all concerning me or otherwise (and that is not an invertachan to insult me ) I was just genrally tierd and confused and feeling slitly depressed and very angry (prolonged exposure to docters does that to me).

I told that girl how I felt and she rjected me in a very confusing way. she said that because I set her up with her currant boyfriend she thought I did not like her. she wanted to go out with me and has for some time but she does not want to breakup with her currant boyfriend even though she says she likes me more and sugested (in a round about way) that we see eachother behind his back. I have to much love (in the platonic sence of corse) and respect for the Boy in question to do that to him so it has all fizzeld in to nothing.
You know reading what I wrote before it has the ring of the lot in a soap opra maby they art so unrealstc (eather that or I am living a weird life).

I like camping in the woods I used to dissaper for weeks Kayacking The ocen, rivers, lakes I did not care as long as there was water and some where near by that I could camp on. Great fun I hope you enjoy your self.

Bob. What am I to do with you? Have a long talk with your Dad, really. This is the kind of stuff Dads can and love to help with.

First of all, there's nothing wrong with calling anyone Sir or Ma'am if you don't know his or her name. A lot of young people think that you have to earn respect. Au contraire, my dyslexic young friend. Everyone automatically deserves respect until he does something to lose it. Think about it: it's totally up to you to respect or disrespect a stranger. Since they're a stranger, you have no idea what they're like. So, why would you choose not to respect someone? And "Sir" and "Ma'am" are gestures of respect and courtesy. Don't be afraid to respect people. It'll come back to you.

Secondly, this girl is more confused than you are. More to the point, she is - to put it in polite terms - not a good girl. Tell her politely but in no uncertain terms that it's either him or you. No one's interests are served by cheating. (That is, unless you enjoy generating a 'soap opera' quality to your life.) In the long run, everyone will be more hurt and miserable. If she really, truly likes you better, where's the problem? Hurting him? He'll get over it easier and faster if he feels he's been treated truthfully. How do you think he'd feel if he knew she liked you better? It's a matter of respect, you know? In my mind, this is far from over. Too much is still unresolved and will simply continue to fester until it is resolved. My reaction, based on what you've said, is to tell her to go pound sand. But maybe she has redeeming social qualities.

As far as the soap operas are concerned, there's an old saying that life imitates art. We learn a lot of our behavior from stories. In fact, theater started with what they used to call morality plays... to try to influence people to behave morally. So the soap operas, along with all other TV and cinema and theater, as well as all literature and art generally, certainly should have a recognizable ring of truth.

As I said yesterday, if people didn't screw up, none of the really great literature in the world would ever have been written.

Have a great, great day, bud. But remember, whether you do or not is all up to you.

Pan, sorry, wrong V I guess. I know the area generally. I have actually been to Sandusky on business, and there's that theme/amusement park there, too, right? I don't know the Double Tree you mention, specifically. You should really stay at the Hershey Hotel itself if you like dress up. They actually require ties and jackets in the dining room, and the floral arrangements are spectacular.

Age doesn't matter in an aesthetic sense. But I think it does matter in a lot of other ways. For example, you said it yourself, "Wheee!!! It's fun for a while. But..." So, it depends on what you're looking for. Sexual prowess and stamina depends on age; experience definitely depends on age (not to confuse experience with technique or talent); as you said, conversation can depend on age, although not necessarily. And some men, a lot of men actually, improve with age, e.g., Sean Connery. So, as you said about relationships, generalizations fail.

I just felt it was necessary to mention to kind of flesh out the overall picture. What matters more than age is aesthetics. Appearance has a lot to do with attraction. If someone likes to look good, then I'm attracted And that's not necessarily to say they have to look like Jennifer Lopez. Who can quantify attractiveness? We can all agress on some actors who we think are attractive, and others we would disagree. I think Sigourney Weaver is one of the sexiest women, but is she classically attractive? I don't think so. I think Clint Eastwood is a handsome man. Is he? I don't know.

Anyway, I'm rambling now. Sorry. Enough revealed for today.

So, when are you coming to Phila again? Or do I have to go to the head of the W. Branch of the Black River?

A più tardi, sweetheart

Well said Pete!!! Ahhh...I remember being THAT young...I changed boyfriends like my Sister changed outfits! Sometimes GRILS just want to have fun. At that age (& if they're not bright) even into adulthood, a young lady will break hearts all over the place, without even knowing she's doing it. It's just a girly thing.

*just popped my head in to let the dog out for awhile...I'd like to swimm, but then I'd HAVE to wash my hair...& it was COLD last last night...Brrrr! My hair will be wet all night (again) & I'll freeze.
Choices...life's full of 'um! back to the campfire*

Hi, Pandora. As I see you are the research leader by
this subject. If this issue is still opened...
So, congrats about your words.
Unfortunately many girls doesn't think in this matured
way (this word is too strong, a) if they think at all.
May be there is no a clear question about the relationships,
(as we all know from h2g2) so we're tryin to look for an
answerS. Anyway, I even suspect that you're not thinking
like a woman, but this is just a labels : ladies, gentlemen...

Hello Koolio! Pete & I must have posted a message at the same time, his got there first & it threw off what I was saying to Bob. What's with the congradulations? I don't see myself as the research leader of this topic nor any others...I just exchange thoughts with people here.

Koolio, what do you mean you suspect I'm not thinking like a woman?!?
What/or whom do you think I'm thinking like? I've been flirting with Pete a bit there. And when you wonder if this subject is still open, I take it you mean relationships right? We're all having relationships developing from our conversation. Some of these newly met friends have been to visit me on other threads as well as here. Is there something you'd like to talk about? This IS an open forum.

Pete!!! LOL!!! The Hershey IS The Double Tree!!! The Dlb. Tr. bought it from them either in mid, or early 90's. That is where I stay in Philly. There's a theatre just across the Street. My lawyer has the top floor of a building on Market St. I love the stores, esp. the jewlery stores...all right there together. (I'm not the stereotypical
woman shopper. I know what I'm after, go in & get out...& no I don't steal it ) I'm in phase one of a divorce. My first. You might have missed where I said my friend Rick would be bringing me to PA. He would never let me out of his platonic eyesight. He's a pain that way & if you want to talk about cheap...in the dictionary, next to the word cheap, that's Rick's picture! As for how I look I'll just say I've always gotten EVERY man I've ever wanted with just a look. Later at times I've had to be mean to get rid of them. I am flattered by your offer. But I must decline-for now. IRL The very last thing I need in my life right now is another man. Some woman cook or do crafts
I do men, er, I'm into men...I mean that my interest is in men. Ya' know what? I REALLY NEED some sound sleep! I'm still confused about what Koolio meant about me not thinking like a woman. I would have to guess that our new friend is young. Later Pady

Hey, this was just an innocent flattering.
I just liked your way & tried to explain it
and as always was not understand right.
In connection with your last words - the label
"young" - does it mean that I'm too young 4U ?
& if so our conversation might help in order to
improve it. Pity, anyway, we improve our age with
each eyeblink and breath. No, better cut this...
Back to relationships - tell me something about
marriage ( as I understood you're experienced).
Can't tell you what particulary is interesting for
me, but is it OK at all or the marriage doesn't worth?

All I REALLY know about marriage is: if during the wedding, you feel ill, and you don't hear half the ceremony because you're trying NOT to faint...Do NOT say,"I do!"
You need to know what to expect 5 years down the line. Set goals & work toward them together. And NEVER EVER settle 'down'...that's what muck does in the bottom of a pond! Settle in. Cozy down. But Never,
ever settle down!!! You can tell you're happy when you want everything you have...not when you have everything you want. Make sense?
Like most people I talk to...all of a sudden (of course it wasn't sudden, it was slow & steady) you find yourself wishing the other person would leave for work, or go to bed early, or not breath so loudly. Small things add up when you're not happy. Still in need of sleep! LOL! I see on my last post I spelled my name wrong. Major Duh!

That was depressing Funarals I hate the things. Why is it always the people who actually do somthing for other people who die first.
Any way I did not intend to talk about that I actually came on to say pete was exactly right that girl was trash of the first quality, It is good to know that I still cannot judge people verry well. She was already cheting on the porre lad never mind all but asking me to. It is all sorted now I think because her boy friend and I caught her with that other lad and after a brefe argument we walked away in descused. I was so peoude of him he never once let her see how much he wasactually botherd about the whole thing he cept a compleatly indiferant tone and expression throught ntill we were out of sight of them. It worked though she was not pleased at all She phoned me up complaning that he never really cared about her (now that I dont understand) because if he did he would hve been angery. so then I ended up slaging her off as well (I had stayed out of the argument) and when I had finished she was in tears. I am not proude of doing that but I only told her things that needed to be said.

Bob Paintron saint of weird statements, first let me say, good for you for taking (wise) Pete's advice! Even though you told her off a bit, it was good for you to vent & have closure on your relationship with her. She 'messed in her hat & now she has to wear it'!!!
I am so sorry to hear that you've suffered a loss. I know not of the details, however, it is said that 'only the GOOD die young'. So, if you believe in God, you must know that she (is it she?) has the greatest reward for life, which is departure from suffering. Those left behind (those of us awaiting our reward)
feel all types of emotion. The ones who pass over are happy. Pain free & generally free...I'll be ready when my time arrives. I'll not do anything to make it happen quicker, but it will be nice to have such an adventure! A young patient/family friend passed over a few weeks ago. Being mortal, the question WHY will always linger. Just as I'll always miss her, I shall remember her too. If you feel the need to talk about this & want to talk to me, please let me know. I'll say an extra prayer for you sweetie. Take care~Pan

Bob Paintron saint of weird statements, first let me say, good for you for taking (wise) Pete's advice! Even though you told her off a bit, it was good for you to vent & have closure on your relationship with her. She 'messed in her hat & now she has to wear it'!!!
I am so sorry to hear that you've suffered a loss. I know not of the details, however, it is said that 'only the GOOD die young'. So, if you believe in God, you must know that she (is it she?) has the greatest reward for life, which is departure from suffering. Those left behind (those of us awaiting our reward)
feel all types of emotion. The ones who pass over are happy. Pain free & generally free...I'll be ready when my time arrives. I'll not do anything to make it happen quicker, but it will be nice to have such an adventure! A young patient/family friend passed over a few weeks ago. Being mortal, the question WHY will always linger. Just as I'll always miss her, I shall remember her too. If you feel the need to talk about this & want to talk to me, please let me know. I'll say an extra prayer for you sweetie. Take care~Pan

I really hope we can get this sorted out, on a societal scale, really really quickly: I believe the welfare of the planet depends on it. The very nature of (and here come the broad generalisations again) women is that they tend to be more nurturing and relationship-building; men tend to be more competitive and want to dominate.
I've seen both genders do both, so please leave this point alone.

My big point is that in order to make European and North American society a more nurturing, compassionate and soul-enlivening place, we need to be more like that with each other. That may stop some of the stupiditie that are destroying the planet, and THAT is of paramount importance.

One really good way to do that is to stop making assumptions about each other: when in doubt, check it out: ask, then act from the new information.

Fruitbat

I really hope we can get this sorted out, on a societal scale, really really quickly: I believe the welfare of the planet depends on it. The very nature of (and here come the broad generalisations again) women is that they tend to be more nurturing and relationship-building; men tend to be more competitive and want to dominate.
I've seen both genders do both, so please leave this point alone.

My big point is that in order to make European and North American society a more nurturing, compassionate and soul-enlivening place, we need to be more like that with each other. That may stop some of the stupiditie that are destroying the planet, and THAT is of paramount importance.

One really good way to do that is to stop making assumptions about each other: when in doubt, check it out: ask, then act from the new information.

P.S.: I love what you said about sharing the social events; terrific idea

Fruitbat

PLT! (you can look up the answer) Mick.

Erik, this is OK about making the world a nice place
loving each other, but... there's a telling that just one
spoon of tar will spoil the cage of honey, but one spoon
honey can't improve the taste of tar.
Listen, I don't want to discourage you - you're on the right
way ( hope I'm it too). All these things about the judgement
and prejudgement are written in the old wise book. But this
is too much for us, because it's very simple and easy to
understand. We're tryin to make the things complex, to put
them in the clouds, to express them with too many words...
We can't think out something new. That's why I'm interested
in Pandora's common stories about the life )

Pandora, this about the happiness is wise. Even I would say that this sounds as 42 ))
What about the mutual compromises - do they charge or exhaust the relationship or
do they worth at all ?

Thanks Pan I mean it it helps. her name was Rachal and she went to my sisters school (which if you have not gessed means she was disabled no she would kill me for saying that she was not dissabled just disadvantaged) she had allot of s**t of her owne to dele with but she still made time for my amzingly big emoshanal problems she was great I will miss her.

Any way it would be nice to think the world could ever be a nice place but it isent and it wont. Now as a christan I baleve that there will come a time when we all shal be judged and go to paradice but humans off our owne backs are just to self centerd to make the world a good place to live. The best example of this is the fact that we (as in contries) still think that the third world should pay off its debts. Now come on it has enough troubble without paying off money to the westen contries that dont actually need it.
Untill there is a drastic change in basic human nature there will never be a nice place to live its depressing but the truth.

Bob, at current life expectancy you've got about 60 years to go, boy. You'd better start now looking at your glass like it's half full instead of half empty, or you're going to spend a lot of depressing years being depressed.

The world IS a nice place... it's got people like Pandora in it (even if she did have a couple of blonde moments there recently). Do you still smile? Do you laugh at jokes? ...listen to music you enjoy? ... read a good book? Have you ever kissed a warm, soft-lipped girl, lingeringly and deeply? (Checking to see if Pandora is reading.) All these things are good times, and your life is made up of these. Sure, bad stuff happens, but don't let it overwhelm you and color the way you look at life. It's almost entirely attitude. I know, believe me, that attitude can usually be just as positive with a million bucks, but you have to learn that it can be just as positive without it!

But a good attitude doesn't come naturally to all of us... work at it! Like muscles, exercise can improve and build positive attitude. When I was a little boy, and cried for some reason or another, I used to go into the bathroom, look in the mirror, and smile. Just the act of smiling, physiologically, brings increased blood flow to the head and the brain, and makes you feel better. So, smile in the face of trouble, and you'll feel better. Don't expect that you won't get your face smashed in a couple of times either. I'm not saying that that won't happen. But, if you go with that kind of attitude, the worst case is, you won't be surprised or disappointed.

I know what I think you need... and I think Pandora can guess what I'm thinking, too. Get a girl and kiss her a lot, fall in love, and don't worry about tomorrow. And don't worry if it takes a while to find one. In the meantime, hang with your buddy. Whatever you do, have fun, dammit!

Way too long on the soapbox.

Relationships, smather! There ARE no generalizations about relationships... like politics, all relationships are local... interpersonal... between you and one other person at a time. Focus on the good ones; forget about the bad ones.

Pan, sweetie. Hi.

I did get the mention of your friend Rick, but I chose to ignore it. And, while my interest in you is not platonic, by a long shot, I'm not proposing marriage either. What it is is more of a proposition; to share some time together if you get nearby again. Share a drink, share some laughter, share some Alaskan King Crab legs, share an intimate interlude... or not. Whatever might happen, I'm only offereing to enjoy meeting you without any strings... or limits, either.

I'm still confused about where you stay in this area. Is your lawyer's office in downtown Phildelphia? There is a Market St. in Phila. I don't know of a theater across the street from the Hershey Hotel. The Hershey Hotel has about a hundred acres of ground around it. Hershey Park is sort of across the street (which is about a mile down the driveway from the hotel). I would perfer it if you stayed in Phila, rather than Hershey. Phila is much closer to me, and I know more about it to show you around in.

And (whispering) I think Koolio is not a native English-speaker. That's why you're a little confused by him.

Anyway, don't close me out just yet, ok? After all, we have to lead by example and the topic IS relationships

P.S. Pan, I like the way you think