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Hoovooloo Started conversation Oct 20, 2001
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A600085
This disappeared. Rather appropriate. But it's back now.
H.
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Oct 20, 2001
Hi, Hoovooloo!
An interesting article and I like the links. However I am left wanting more.
I am also interested in learning about where it is taught.
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Shorn Canary ~^~^~ sign the petition to save the albatrosses Posted Oct 20, 2001
This entry is just as good as it was last time I saw it in peer review. Nice to see you back Hoovooloo!
ZSF! No doubt Hoovooloo will put me right on this one, but I would guess it's a key subject in the School of Hard Knocks
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Oct 20, 2001
As an exponent of T'ai Chi and small time teacher, I have a reasonable understanding of its principles (although I am *very* far from perfect), however I would still like to know more about Run-Lak Fekh, which I can't get a grasp on. I would like to know a little more.
PS: Is it just a coincidence that it sounds like 'Run like f***'?
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Oct 20, 2001
On closer examination, the Sensei's name can be read as 'Got to go now' . Like it! Slow to catch on!
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Witty Ditty Posted Oct 20, 2001
Hiya!
Yes it's back
Will we have to wait a week for this to be rec'd? I'd rec it, but I'm not a scout
Stay ,
WD
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Hiram Abif (aka Chuang Tzu's Pancreas) Posted Oct 24, 2001
I would reccomend it right now, except for the fact that I think it encourages people to rely on fleet-footedness as the only sound means of self defense... when your attacker runs faster than you do, then you'd better have some other tricks up your sleeve.. I also don't care for the bit about martial arts not being useful in real confrontations because it can't adapt to the reality. Utter rubbish. If you learn to add by just saying 2+2=4 then when asked what is 2+3 you will stumped...this is because you haven't learned to add you've only learned to repeat something...does this mean that if you need to add 2 and 2 the answer won't be 4? The idea is to learn the whole art and science of defense. Here is a simple test: Who would you rather escort your dear old mum through a bad part of town? a fast runner, or a skilled martial artist? Hope you can keep up, mummsy
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LL Waz Posted Oct 25, 2001
You have a point - this is about *self* defence rather than defending anyone else though I wouldn't put bets on not being outrun by 'mummsy'. (If she ever heard me call her that I'd need all the martial arts there are.)
As to other martial arts being of little practical help, the entry says some critics say this, not that it is so. Also that this is due to methods of teaching rather than the principles of the arts themselves. Which I suspect is a fair point.
Whether it works might depend how good your 'all seeing eye' is, how much of a start you get, and how much you've practised your technique (running ), just like any other martial art.
If you can take to heels it seems the better option, afterall you don't know your attacker isn't better at martial arts than you are, anymore than you know whether he/she is a faster runner. Nor do you know if she/he is armed.
I like this entry, its a good defense option to consider and deserves a place in the guide, as I said on its original peer review thread.
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il viaggiatore Posted Oct 25, 2001
It's back!
I heartily recommend this entry for inclusion in the edited guide.
yes!
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Geoff Taylor - Life's Liver Posted Oct 25, 2001
To Harim,
Ever heard of using humour to make a valid point?
The point is valid, the humour is funny. This article is well written, and it's well past time it was in the Guide. Goodness me, I wrote my Tai Chi article on the strength of this article, and my article has been recommended!
THE ULTIMATE MARTIAL ART DESERVES TO BE IN THE GUIDE !!
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xyroth Posted Oct 26, 2001
you might like to mention that the most well known exponent of this art is rincewind the wizard in terry pratchet's discworld novels. a significant part of his character is based on it.
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taliesin Posted Oct 26, 2001
Good to see you, Hoovooloo, and also good to see this article back in place.. Both were sorely missed!
BTW, did you ever hear of an equivalent Western martial art, called, I believe,
G'it th' heyall outta Dodge...
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Hiram Abif (aka Chuang Tzu's Pancreas) Posted Oct 26, 2001
I agree that it is better to run when you can..and yes I have heard of using humor to make a point....
The way it was explained to me is that there are three levels of self-defense, and you always use the lowest level that any situation will allow. The first level is escape...when you can you always should...the second level is control... if you can't get away then you attempt to control the attacker... the third level is destroy... if you cannot get away and you cannot safely control your attacker, you are left with no choice but to use damaging force.
I never said I didn't like this entry, in fact I said I would have chosen it right then if it wasn't for one point...this is not stopping anyone else from picking it... I am just picking something else...is that OK with you?
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- 4: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Oct 20, 2001)
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