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Have it built into the table

how should we know what your kitchen looks like

similar problem .... eeensy teeensy kitchen, not a square inch to spare.

ditto the rest of the flat, actually. I live in a shoebox.

dishwasher as part of a table? Originality strikes again

I got a tabletop model; it sits on the draining board next to the sink, where the dirty dishes used to stack up.

Despite what you may hear, living in small surroundings can be nice. There is less to clean, things don't get lost as much, and spring cleaning is a breeze.

However, there is no room for a dishwasher.

Where did you get a tabletop model? I want one!

They're not that uncommon; mine was an older model, an "Amcor Pony 2000". Try Google...

New price is just over £200... http://www.coopelectricalshop.co.uk/index.asp?page=product.asp?product=7892P

Now if you could have one of thoes built into the table so that it springs up and open like one of thoes old VCR machines...

In my house, getting the washing up done is a fairly miraculous accomplishment. This is because certain housemates don't do any washing up until there's absolutely nothing left, and those who do do washing up tend to lose ground because they're only washing up what they've used (as is right and proper). At the moment our kitchen has almost no dirty dishes in it, we're two days from a giant do-all-the-washing-up session, and so far we're managing to just about hold our ground. I'm sure it won't last.

I've done all my washing up now!

The real mystery, however is all all that over stuff that no-body owns up to having used. My theory is that the people next door sneak and and leave all their washing up on our work surfaces. Or there's a mysterous housemate nobodys aware of.

i don't like washing up although it's not so bad when you have nice clean washing up gloves and not too dirty plates
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In the worst case, move all the dishes into the bath, fill up with hot soapy water, then throw the neighbour's pet in...

It'll dislodge all the dried-on stuff in its struggle to escape, and you can move them back through to the sink in manageable batches to finish the job.

I dont have either

either what?
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What an adorable little dishwasher!


And I do mean *little*!


For my family, I'd have to fill it about 4 times a day, though, between the dishes used for meals and assorted snacks. I don't think there's any solution to it except to get a full sized dishwasher.

However, my table isn't in the kitchen, and I'm not able to give up any cabinet space for a dishwasher, since my cabinets are fairly bursting as it is. That means I'd have to push some of the cabinets out into the dining area about 30 inches in order to accomodate a dishwasher. Now, once I've done that, both the flooring (which only extends as far as the current cabinet placement), and the countertop would need to be replaced.

If we replace the current countertop, it would be necessary to shim up the counter tops which are pulling away from the wall behind the stove area. Granted, that's a job that needs to be done anyway.

But that brings up the stove itself... This house was built with an odd sized (27") drop-in stove (most stoves are 30 inches). The stove is as old as the house. It also only has one large burner on it (3 small ones, but sometimes I end up having problems figuring out how to cook a meal which has something in both a large pot and a large skillet at the same time), and the oven isn't large enough to accomodate some baking pans, since the stove is 3" smaller overall than a normal stove. If we're going to put all that money into a dishwasher, replacing flooring, countertop and shimming up the lower cabinets and countertop, then it would be foolish to not replace this small stove with a normal sized one. This would require pushing another cabinet 3" to the right, to accomodate a larger stove. That also means that the refrigerator would have to be moved over 3 inches to the right, since it is located right next to the cabinet which would have to be pushed out to accomodate a normal sized stove.

Are you with me so far?

Now, let's look at what happens in the upper cabinet line, and the rest of that wall: The current stove is so unusual that the controls for the stove are located in the exhaust hood above the stove, so that would have to be replaced also. Not only that, but the whole alignment of the stove/exhaust hood would be out of kilter with the new placement of a normal sized stove, because as it is, the hood extends to the left about 2" further than the stove, and putting in a normal stove would mean that it simply would not line up properly at all on the right side.

We could move the upper cabinets to the right 3 inches in order to accomodate this, which would also mean we'd need to move the exhaust duct over in order to align with the new placement. Now we have a 3 inch gap between the upper cabinets above the stove and the corner upper cabinet. What to put in there? Too skinny for a small specially built cabinet, too wide to adjust it with a filler piece of wood. Should we move the whole cabinet/stove/hood arrangement over enough to accomodate a real cabinet in there? You'd think that would be a good idea, but no. Remember the refrigerator is also on that wall... the wall that just happens to have the door to the garage... which the refrigerator is already so close to that only part of the light switch is visible beside it. Putting in an additional cabinet would move the refrigerator over partially in front of the garage door, hardly a workable solution.

In short, rather than try to put a dishwasher in this kitchen, it would be easier to move!

a bath or neighbours, I'm guesing.

The former may well account for the later!

LS? what about putting it in the garage-ey bit where the freezer is, near the wood pile?

LS, put it where the 'fridge is, then move the 'fridge into the living room and fill it with . Problem solved.