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Marjin, After a long time of procrastination back lurking Posted Feb 27, 2002
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Cupid Stunt Posted Feb 28, 2002
Erm, nothing to do with murphies law, not my department. Lets all share it!
This bloke probably wasn't called xenon or xerox...
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Marjin, After a long time of procrastination back lurking Posted Mar 1, 2002
While we savour the blame, let's look at the origin.
A581096 contains:
Zeno's Paradoxes
Zeno of Elea (aka 'Xeno') was a student of Parmenides the pre-Socratic philosopher. He travelled with Parmenides to Athens where he interacted with Socrates, Plato and other notable thinkers, sages and luminaries. Parmenides used to claim that All was an indivisible, immutable One, and that change and motion were illusions. Zeno attempted to prove these claims mathematically by showing that motion implied certain contradictions. This gives rise to paradoxes, with his proofs showing that motion is impossible, while our experience cries out that motion happens all the time.
Zeno's most popular paradox A541937 runs something like this; suppose you want to cross the room, first you have to walk halfway across, then you have to cross half the remaining distance, then half the remaining distance, and so on. There are, eventually, an infinite number of distances you have to cross to get across the room, and this is impossible to do in a finite time, therefore, all motion is impossible.
** sips whilst thinking that it is impossible to reach your mouth with the cup **
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Cupid Stunt Posted Mar 1, 2002
Laugh? He's great for confusing physics teachers with!
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Cupid Stunt Posted Mar 3, 2002
It almost confused one of mine a lot, then she realised you could disprove it with a distance/time graph. Or she she thought!
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Cupid Stunt Posted Mar 3, 2002
The logic used above is similar to his proof that you can not get hit by an arrow just by running away from it. Unfortunately, this relies on there being an infinitely small division that space can be divided up into. And time as well. I think someone calculated the smallest amount of time possible.
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Cupid Stunt Posted Mar 4, 2002
I've run out of answers to that statement...
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Ming Mang Posted Mar 4, 2002
I do apologise.
Actually we came across Zeno in RE today - he was showing that using impeccable logic in every step you can prove something that is obviously not true...
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Cupid Stunt Posted Mar 5, 2002
Of course he could have been lying... What did he prove in RE then?
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Ming Mang Posted Mar 5, 2002
He didn't as far as I know. It was only a little side thingy that probably a third of the class didn't get because they don't get things. It was his tortoise vs rabbit or whatever proof that the rabbit can never overtake the tortoise. Just showing that although every step he takes is logical and follows on logically from the previous step, the conclusion is obviously false - but logically right. Showing that even though an argument may be logically flawless, it could also be completely wrong. But then who didn't know that? I reckon one person at least in my RE class.
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Cupid Stunt Posted Mar 9, 2002
I think it's the same proof as with the man and the arrow. Isn't logic wonderful?
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