h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

I've long considered this to be one of the finest of Picasso's works: http://www.globalgallery.com/enlarge/43265/

I'd be impressed if the little kiwi could produce something like that.

Crikey that's wonderful.

I'm so tired of this simplistic idea of looking at the daubs of toddlers and apes, as having any meaning aside from being the daubs of toddlers and apes..to be ridiculous.

I have trouble appreciating art, hoping/expecting to see 'more on that canvas than just paint':

. That Picasso posted by anhaga @11,521 - too simplistic but I went back to it a couple of times & maybe it's not...

. The 4-year old posted by tarantoes @11,488 - I'm getting more out of that than many, if not most, 'modern art'.

I asked Ms Stress (a trained eye, albeit somewhat rusty) & she liked both.
. Picasso, simple looking but...
. 4-year old, good composition, colours good... she's precocious but that'll be down to her teachers/critics.

I'm wondering if the objections here are to 'precocious 4-year old' rather than her work.

Perhaps it should be noted that this girl started showing at galleries in New Zealand when she was two years old.

I expect there's been some degree of conditioning here: she's learned what sort of things please her parents, etc., and so, a 'style' has developed.

It strikes me as artistic Munchausen by Proxy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchausen_syndrome_by_proxy

Perhaps so, anhaga.
It did strike me as perhaps the young genius who grows up ordinary.
In this case perhaps excessive attention will be damaging but may take a long time to show.
As you say,

I'd also like to `point out that neither Picasso nor the Abstract Expressionists did not appear ex nihilo. Picasso proved his technical abilities for years -- he was bloody good at making pictures that would satisfy the most adamant devotee of the dogs-playing-poker school. Jackson Pollock had a conventional art school training and began his career with conventional art school works.

If you asked Picasso or Pollock to draw your dog, they'd come up in short order with something like this: http://www.absolutearts.com/portfolio3/m/mswaters/THE_WEINHEMER_DOG_DRAWING-1293506583t.jpg

Ms. Andre, on the other hand, likely couldn't top this: http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/EasySiteWeb/getresource.axd?AssetID=76522&type=full&servicetype=Inline&customSizeId=0


I'm certainly not suggesting that those who have not had formal training should not be admitted to the 'Academy' (I didn't have formal training and I got invited in with great friendliness *when I demonstrated technical ability*). What I am suggesting is that a lack of demonstrable technical capability, it's hard to justify any claim that an 'abstract' work is actually the accurate result of an artistic intention rather than random splatters or (as I suggested earlier) the product of conditioning.

If you give a peanut to an elephant when he paints an attractive marketable piece but don't give him a peanut when he tips over the paint pot, pretty soon the elephant will have his works in a gallery.

Ms. Andre has been given a lot of peanuts over the last two years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_prodigy


~jwf~

Aye, ~jwf~, perhaps that category - though I may not be around to confirm or deny

'a prodigy is a child, typically younger than 18 years old, who is performing at the level of a highly trained adult in a very demanding field of endeavour.'


As I've mentioned, I've not seen the evidence that she is performing at such a level.


Perhaps if she could `present us with a coherent artistic statement . . .



http://10k.aneventapart.com/Uploads/262/#

Joan Miró said that he has been trying to evoque during his career the way he painted when he was a child. He was trying to find the frescura, the spontaneity, the let they joy lead your hand, sort of.

I bet any one that they could´t tell an Abstract Expressionist composition done by an adult or by THAT child. I don´t know whether what she does is by the influence of their parents or not; I won´t discuss either whether Art or child art should be in galleries and enter that unusual bussiness, but it´s undeniable that that girl is great.

And, many Abstract Expressionist artist sell paintings because of their fame or/and because they are presented with "a coherent artistic statement" For instance, I can´t stand Tapies, he repeats himself over and over, but some "see" a trayectory of emotions.... blah, blah, blah....

A worried member of the public has forced Leicester City Council to admit it is unprepared for a zombie invasion.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-13713798

Let's hope they sort it out before the next home game with Torquay.

>but it´s undeniable that that girl is great. <

I'm denying she's great.

There's one in every crowd

And it's usually Effers.

Seems that the FIA has finally decided not to support
the oppressive regime in Bahrain. The F-1 race is off.

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-bahrain-organizers-give-up-on-2011-event/


~jwf~

Yes that's excellent news jwf. I was a bit cross with Bernie Eccleston earlier this year when it was first cancelled, saying something along the lines of how it was sensible to not have a race there whilst the authorties had a few problems in Bahrain..but hopefully they would all soon be sorted out, so F1 return later in the season.

Those few annoying problems for ordinary very poor citizens living there..

Meanwhile, the very rich citizens there are building things like this:
http://awayofseeing.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/worldtradecentertowers1.jpg

A former hootooer named A Norfolkbroad moved there
a few years ago. I am happy to report she is well
but not forthcoming on the politics around her.
She lives in a gated community.

~jwf~

Some say that art goes beyond reason ... If that's the case it is
difficult for me to respond to the comments of the work of the 4
year old except that I find the work interesting.

What are the earliest dreams of a child - modern art or mummy / daddy
scenes?