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A New Radicalism.....
Haylle (Nyssabird) ? mg to recovery Posted Mar 14, 2004
Hmm..I thought it was apparent from the context of what i was saying, you know, the other words in the sentence, that i wasn't meaning 'evolve' in the same sense as that inflammatory word 'evolution.' But I should have known you would have read it and started the knee-jerk dance. Social evolution, to me, reflects the struggle man has had, particularly since we were stupid enough to settle in one place and grow crops, to figure how to approach the problem of society. I would hope that our ideologies, our ambitions, and our commitment to proper stewardship would reach that 'radical' point at which we put into practice such notions as equitable distribution of resources and the value of life in general (and the diversity that comes with it). Christians, if their ethics are aligned reasonably, have such tremendous infrastructure already in place to do such good. It is just so lamentable that religiosity comes before good stewardship, something, if one believes in the bible, was given to man as a responsibility from the very start. Guess the rest of us heathens wil have to pick up the slack. But then, we knew that anyway.
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Mar 14, 2004
Re-mem-mem
I did read your post
The phrase "half a dozen rational youngsters with the wit to betray their moronic, sappy, cooperative brethren"
was yours and it does sound like equating cooperation with stupidity and ruthless selfishness as rational behaviour. That seems cynical to me.
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Merci_ME Posted Mar 15, 2004
Justin - Whoaa there partner! If you're going to call Christ into this then you might forego the judgements and consider thinking like Christ. Take some of your apparent energy and puzzle out why a woman asking to be considered a full human is supposedly an evil, and consider that there are plenty of good folks from the last generation who still might not meet your criteria. Expand your world a little.
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Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' Posted Mar 15, 2004
'Tis fun, isn't it? Ostrich-boy here also includes, in the multitudinous evils of feminism, women with short hair. I'm not sure at what length it becomes good, and at what shortness, wicked; (which is, perhaps, determined by... a Golden Rule! ) -metric or imperial? Should the hair then be covered by snood, boudoir cap or net? Or her husband's large, protective and superior hands?
Sorry.. I am taking the goldwater and I did not set out to. But I have had a 3-post max. serious debate history with Justin, in which the above subject came up. Plus something about concrete prunes... his phrase, not mine. Never figured that one out; also he seemed to be somewhat muddled about who should be allowed to shave.
I've seen lots of foreign films lately. See you all on fire, then.
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Mar 15, 2004
women with short hair wicked?
poor nuns then
not only did they waste their earthly lives but because they cut their hair short they'll all be damned
oh, I forgot, they are Catholics and not proper Christians anyway
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Mar 15, 2004
A New Radicalism?
Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' Posted Mar 15, 2004
Unless they are wearing strange hats.
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Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque Posted Mar 15, 2004
A New Radicalism.....
Researcher 195767 Posted Mar 15, 2004
Nyss,
I am sorry but there are all sorts of things that you just do not understand, and have no knowledge of at all! You make all sorts of assumptions about 'Christians' which are just not true! Because you are a child of this world, and you do not know God, all your ambitions and efforts are aimed at improving this world. However Christians do not have a worldly view and they do not love this world as Scripture clearly tells them not to, and the Holy Spirit in them leads them.
You do not stand a chance of modifying human beings for good. They are absolutely wicked by nature and their hearts will constantly be after selfishness and evil. Some of the most foul creatures I have met; the most slovenly and disgusting, are 'greenies'. You will find many such people in Glastonbury, not far from here, who are dead keen and vegetarians etc., but the filth and mess they leave where they camp on the roadsides and in the woods is as bad as any inner city drug soaked, junk food eating, slob you could name.
Human beings are NOT evolving, only changing from depravity to depravity. New birth is the ONLY way to change anyone. Once they are changed from children of Satan; sin loving selfish people, to children of God; lovers of decency and righteousness, then everything changes. However, this is not going to happen in the vast majority.
Christians do not bother to modify this world, as God is going to burn it with fire. They are about ministering to God, first, to each other next, and to those who need help around them. Sure they are to be good stewards with what they have been given, and they are. But as they are only about 0.5% of the population of the UK, and a small proportion of peoples of other lands, it has little effect. It is not the Christians you need to get on the case of. I agree, it is the heathens that need to do something, not the decent Christian folks.
As for 'Christians' having big structures in place to make a difference; what you perceive to be 'Christians' are no such thing, by and large, and they no more know the Lord Jesus and obey Him than you do. They would possibly be worse than some unsaved folks too, who profess no religion. But if there is colossal structure such as you say rest assured that it is nothing to do with God, and, therefore, nothing to do with His people. Nominalism is much bigger than those in Christ and walking with Him.
J.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 15, 2004
Justin, your initial posting confirms my already stated view that you are just about as far from being a Christian as it is possible to be. You live to instill anger and hate in others, presumably getting a kick out of it. You justify this by claiming you are doing it for your God, but your God never asked you to hate sex, to hate women and to hate other people who have slightly different interpretations of your holy book.
I'm going to commit a breach of netiquette here and unsubscribe, having stated my view. I'm really not interested in your reply. Your opinions are not worth dirt. But everybody else should know that you are a charlatan.
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Haylle (Nyssabird) ? mg to recovery Posted Mar 15, 2004
You should take note Justin - you've thoroughly unimpressed one of Hootoo's imminent elders. Not that you'd care, of course.
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Researcher 195767 Posted Mar 15, 2004
Nyss,
Sorry, I must be having a senior moment....
What do you mean? What is a 'hootoo' elder? If they are unsaved and a child of the devil then they will be upset by the truth of God, of course, that is quite normal. It is impossible to tell the truth of God without upsetting the majority. Look what the did to Jesus and the apostles for doing just that! Wicked men are just the same today you know!
J.
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I am Donald Sutherland Posted Mar 15, 2004
>>It is impossible to tell the truth of God without upsetting the majority. Look what the did to Jesus and the apostles for doing just that!<<
But that was prejudice born out of ignorance as is all prejudice. There is no excuse for ignorance in this day and age of the Internet and practically universal education, therefore there is no excuse for prejudice.
prejudice —n. 1 a preconceived opinion. b (foll. by against, in favour of) bias, partiality. 2 harm that results or may result from some action or judgement (to the prejudice of). —v. (-cing) 1 impair the validity or force of (a right, claim, statement, etc.). 2 (esp. as prejudiced adj.) cause (a person) to have a prejudice. without prejudice (often foll. by to) without detriment (to an existing right or claim). [Latin: related to *judge]
Definition 1 is most appropriate in this case not to mention its etymological source.
Donald
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Noggin the Nog Posted Mar 15, 2004
Blackberry
This is classic evolutionary games theory and *everything* depends on whether the cooperators cooperate a) only with each other but punish the noncooperators. or b)allow themselves to be exploited by the noncooperators.
In (a) the cooperators are rational and the noncooperators irrational.
In (b) the situation is reversed
Noggin
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badger party tony party green party Posted Mar 15, 2004
They would not swear, would not get drunk or take drugs,
Justin what is swearing, are veritcal bacon, lucky pierre, vinegar strokes considered swearing by you? Just what words should we avoid.
How much can I drink before getting "drunk" how intoxicated is drunk anyway?
What to you constitutes drugs, genneric antacids, throat sweets, amoxycilin?
one love
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Leopardskinfynn... sexy mama Posted Mar 15, 2004
"... have reject false pagan/Satanic religion, and will not watch TV or see films, as their content is so bad that it is gut wrenching to Christians?"
If you're such a perfect God fearing Christian what are you doing visiting a 'satanic' website like this one then Justin?
"......this world is utterly corrupt and evil in the eyes of God, and all that man do on it is also. When the Lord God has finished saving out a people for Himself, and perfecting them, He is going to take His few out of it and burn the rest."
If God is omnipotent, why did he (it's always 'he' with these folk isn't it??) create the world to be so corrupt? And why would he want these imperfect humans? What does he want them for anyway??
If God created the Earth and all of humankind, why would he burn most of them for just following their programming?!?
If all that we do is "utterly corrupt" then what's the point of even trying to be a good person?
By your own words Justin, that must mean that *you* are corrupt and evil in the face of God.
You're not the evil twisted old man that spews out his hatred of "sinners" to people in the high street in Bath, are you Justin?
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Tacysa Posted Mar 15, 2004
Personally, if you feel that you have the right to judge anyone else, you might want to reexamine everything you're attempting to 'preach'.
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- 42: Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque (Mar 14, 2004)
- 43: Merci_ME (Mar 15, 2004)
- 44: Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' (Mar 15, 2004)
- 45: Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque (Mar 15, 2004)
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- 48: Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' (Mar 15, 2004)
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