A Conversation for Ask h2g2
1st,2nd&3rd Persons
shagbark Posted Nov 10, 2006
I'm an independent
You are a Democrat
George W. Bush is a lame duck.
1st,2nd&3rd Persons
~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Nov 14, 2006
I enjoy and appreciate music of all sorts from all over the world so long as the performance is sincere.
You'll listen to whatever's playing.
He marches to the loudest drummer.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Nov 25, 2006
>> ...would they do that on a baseball...<<
Uhmmm, for several reasons, no.
Diamonds are a girl's best friend.
Baseball diamonds are not friendly.
And they tend to use the exclusively.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Dec 5, 2006
They are pretentious snobs with no sense of humour.
You are cold and aloof.
We are not amused.
~jwf~
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Dec 8, 2006
Hmm..
Perhaps it's time to crank this subject up a notch.
It is a natural psychological process to observe and process and predict reality from the three distinct perspectives of: (1) self, (2) known associates and (3) unknown others. In primitive societies, such thinking would have been as necessary for survival as running. In fact it would be part of the process that determined when running was more or less advisable.
But it may now be too difficult for most modern western human beings to shrug off the currency of seeing and referring to our selves except in terms the third person. We have all become disassociated. Sadly, it seems we have all become entirely dependent upon the perspective, opinions and judgements of third parties.
They say talking about yourself in the third person is symptomatic of mental or emotional disorders generally called disassociation. So what's that say about us as a society when most of what defines us today is our total lack of cultural identity except for all the rushing around we do seeking permission, forgiveness and approval through participation in work, media absorption and consumerism.
That's why I want to put this whole excercise in some meaaningful context.
It is usually easier to grapple with new ideas if we see them in contrast to some other well established or more familiar system of knowledge. For example, we understand or visualise molecular structures by imagining the larger solar system. It follows that grasping the intangibles of new ideas may be better served by contrasting them with old ideas, such as those found in "Famous Quotations".
There are plenty of well known and familiar quotations available and they come in all three flavours of you, me and them. You can probably quote dozens of each kind.
There are lots of old adages and saws and sayings that speak in an objective (third party) way about things and people and predictable outcomes. You simply have to reverse engineer these to see the first and second person point of views.
And there are lots of cautionary old wives' tales, warnings and slogans, rules and commandments of the "Thou shalt not..." variety that are generally addressed to the second person. It's easy to then extend these to include first or third party perspectives.
So for starters let's see what we have to play with in the catgeory of first person Famous Quotations. Here's a few:
I have not yet begun to fight.
I think therefore I am.
I regret that I have but one life to give for my country.
I am the light and the way.
We didn't start the fire.
I wanna hold your hand.
Perhaps one of those will inspire you to some creative thinking. Or you could choose any other Famous Quotation you think of or can find through the links offered at:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Famous+Quotations&btnG=Google+Search
But let me start first with that famously ancient remark by Julius Caesar:
I came, I saw, I conquered.
You showed up, had a look round and took over.
They arrived, poked Harold's eye out and then did an inventory.
~jwf~
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HarpoNotMarx (((2*1)^6)-6-(2*8)=42 Posted Dec 11, 2006
I wanna hold your hand
You're a bit presumptious
He's a stalker
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Mycelium Posted Dec 11, 2006
I think therefore I am,
You drink a little dram,
They sink two dozen cans.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Dec 12, 2006
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Mycelium Posted Dec 13, 2006
oops, 3rd line on the last one should be "He sinks...."
We will fight them on the beaches,
You will not give in,
They won't get this far
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HarpoNotMarx (((2*1)^6)-6-(2*8)=42 Posted Jan 22, 2007
I am modest in victory
You could let your hair down and celebrate more
HE is Andy Murray!
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Researcher U197087 Posted Jan 22, 2007
I refer you to the answer I gave some 5 years hence.
F19585?thread=128542&skip=64&show=1
You are stuck with the backlog.
They are probably too busy.
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Researcher U197087 Posted Jan 22, 2007
I have become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
You have created a new dawn for our military industrial complex.
They have to be stopped!
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Jan 22, 2007
I am not a racist.
You Indians all eat with your fingers.
She is Jayde Goody.
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shagbark Posted Jan 22, 2007
this is not a tripartite statement, just a passing observation.
It has been asserted that we are dissassociated as a culture speaking of ourselves in third Person. what does that say about the editors of h2g2 who always insist tha articles for the edited guide be in third person
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Researcher U197087 Posted Jan 22, 2007
We are the Cheeky Girls, We are the Cheeky Girls,
You are the Cheeky Boys, You are the Cheeky Boys,
They are the Liberal Democrat spokesmen for Health, Home Affairs, and Trade & Industry...
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Researcher U197087 Posted Jan 22, 2007
>>what does that say about the editors of h2g2 who always insist that articles for the edited guide be in third person
Maybe they're encouraging us to have multiple identities.
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- 224: shagbark (Nov 23, 2006)
- 225: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Nov 25, 2006)
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- 229: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Dec 8, 2006)
- 230: HarpoNotMarx (((2*1)^6)-6-(2*8)=42 (Dec 11, 2006)
- 231: Mycelium (Dec 11, 2006)
- 232: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Dec 12, 2006)
- 233: Mycelium (Dec 13, 2006)
- 234: HarpoNotMarx (((2*1)^6)-6-(2*8)=42 (Jan 22, 2007)
- 235: Researcher U197087 (Jan 22, 2007)
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- 237: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Jan 22, 2007)
- 238: shagbark (Jan 22, 2007)
- 239: Researcher U197087 (Jan 22, 2007)
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