h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Loup,

i wondered what you meant by examples as i did provide them and yeah i agree, i want to keep this a serious thread so i have chosen my words carefully and i havent named names..i realise if i did this those that were rubbishing my comments in previous posts would jump back on the bandwagon shouting 'i told you so', 'shes just a troublemaker' and i will not give them the satisfaction of belitting me until they have something intelligent to add to this thread..

ok so we'll have to agree to differ on certain matters but thats ok we can still have an amicable discussion

no powers as such Loup? but following researchers around the site, mocking them or goading them into a reaction so as they yikes them, and then come back into a thread to laugh is an abuse of the title, am i right? is that also part of their duty? i think not

regarding the aces forum and whats been discussed in there, i think you, (and several others are clearly missing my point), the point is i know i, and others have been discussed and by whom, i also know their email address is on that post, im not moaning because i have been discussed, im not complaining to the people who have discussed me or my activities on this site, im saying i am aware of whats been going on in the aces forum, and though i havent named names at any point i have given examples, the point is this..aces who have a code of conduct which clearly states they should not discuss with anyone what goes on in there have! thus proving 1 of the points raised in this thread, 'some' aces are in breach of the code of conduct, simple isnt it?

people in this thread keep referring to Awol, so i have used him as an example but dont confuse this issue with Awol..my points raised are valid and justified, and not just me griping cos my friends been 'picked on', Awol is more than capable of speaking for himself, and his life time ban of his account im sure he can deal with though saying that i am pretty sure it states in the rules when an account is barred it remains barred, i dont think it says anywhere that the account holder is barred for life? but, thats hardly the issue in this thread anyway and not my problem, the aces seem more than happy to deal with that personally

yes i have read Morts post where she offered to yikes posts should i wish for them to be yikesed on my behalf (thanks Mort ), i have also been on the yikesing pages for digibox users and have to say they totally defeat the purpose! (perhaps h2g2 should have a serious rethink there), by requesting a post removed, its because i find it either offensive or it contains personal details and i would like it removed a.s.a, if i went via the route of 'yikesing for digibox' the post would remain longer, wheres the sense in that? much easier to ask someone on pc to do it cos then its instantly hidden, and maybe removed later!

i dont ignore any worthwhile advice Loup, im listening and taking your views on board but im just offering a point of view in this thread and obviously i dont expect everyone to agree with me, but the fact that some people have regarding my views on 'some' aces, should concern the h2g2 italics (or whoever it is we answer to).

Loup,

question -
if this point about the aces forum is irrelevant, why cant any researcher enter the aces forum?

and what exactly do you mean by "deep throat"? whatever it is you are insinuating you are not funny, i have respectfully responded to all your comments, is it too much to expect the same?

Insomniac Vampire...

"deep throat" was the nickname given to Mulder's source in the X-Files... No offense was intended...

>if this point about the aces forum is irrelevant, why cant any researcher enter the aces forum?<

My theory was that as long as an ACE didn't discuss confidential informations as specified in the Code [things that the Italics ask to not disclose] then the issue of leaking confidential informations [eg what the ACEs talk about in the forum] would have been irrelevant as there would have been no case... but Titania corrected my theory...

Even if my theory had been right, confidential stuff [as described in the code] would still have been discussed so researchers would not have been able to enter the forum anyway...

I still think that the reason given in the Code for non-disclosure should be updated somehow...

i have to go offline eventually...

Talk soon...

loup.dargent

every one

We have now assitaind that there is a problem with just a few of the Aces on site(im sure im on the list)but that is by the by at the moment and irelivent

But hasn`t it got to the point where the list of"problem"Aces should be sent off site and sent to the forum And ed`s and italics
specifying what that Ace has "done"wrong to give the Aces in question a chance to at the very least defend them self`s

At the moment it`s finger pointing and cloake and dagger accusations with no threads been oferd for any kind of reference
point

If needs be one new thread on the aces home page could be used for them to defend themselves and
also comments can be added as well just a thought becouse as it stands now we are going over the house rules this brings the situation forward a bit instead of argueing about the house rules
and leaking infomation which i think good points have been made all around by everyone but *rakeing over old coal`s*comes to mind and we could argue about these points prtty much for months to come

>*rakeing over old coal`s*comes to mind<



I dunno... If what is being discussed here can prevent similar situations in future, i would say it's worth posting away even if that means going back on some points already discussed if necessary...

Apart from that, yep that would help if Insomniac Vampire could send the names of the ACEs she has problems with and details of her complaint etc to the Editors so that they can look into it and perhaps open a thread as you said...

That reminds me of _another_ clarification i wanted to make earlier [yep, i still have quite a lot of other things to say though i won't be able to post anymore until later...]: as far as i know/understand the Editors have access to modded postings and can read their content... hopefully they will correct me if i'm wrong...



loup.dargent

well i realy do hope lesson`s are
learn`t by all this and things that have been braught up a solution can be found to avoide the holla balou that has boken out

that is a old saying type thing

I will read with interest your points tho later on

Loup,

i fail to see what the relevance to 'deep throat' is in this thread, and i doubt apart from a few more broad minded and intelligent researchers that people reading these posts will connect in the way youve said you intended, in other words you tagged me with the title and not anyone else like Mulder for instance, regardless of what you say you meant i dont want to be tagged with words like that, its demeaning to my character

i think theres a lot of things that the italics need to look at not least updating the code of conduct

Loup,

h2g2 support already posted me in this thread asking that i mail with details/names but firstly i find it a pointless task when they have clearly stated they are happy with what the aces do despite not being prepared to actually go and see if theres any substance to what ive already stated and secondly this is a public forum, therefore lets keep this debate public, only fair for all concerned, that way us researchers are under no illusions as to how the italics deal with the issues raised, and dont feel as though its been 'swept under the carpet' to coin a phrase

regarding the modded posts, that is a point i have been wondering, also though could they retrieve them and read there content within context of the threads in which they was removed?

sum1 called heh heh altho im frantically puzzled by bein known for my "ahem" skills pmsl

Intern:
>>hasn`t it got to the point where the list of"problem"Aces should be sent off site and sent to the forum And ed`s and italics specifying what that Ace has "done"wrong to give the Aces in question a chance to in the very least defend them selfs

At the moment it`s finger pointing and cloake and dagger accusations with no threads been oferd for any kind of reference point<<

What list of "problem" Aces? And just how are researchers who aren't Ace's able to defend themselves on the Aces forum when accusations are brought up about them(Vamp for instance)?

I believe that ~~Insomniac.Vampire~~ is using a Set-Top Box and is unable to give links to threads and posts atm. Just reading this thread will show you that some Aces have admitted it has indeed been happening.

i can verify the vamp is not on pc n able to cut paste n link things
imock her reguarly about not havin a pc n im currently holdin a fund for her...
all chip in n u may have ur evidence.....
better still......ignore me cos until im clear on situation im not gonna comment lol
altho i think that u cant ignore facts just because u stick together and vamp may only be a "normal researcher" but doesnt mean shes wrong or doesnt have a point n i know her well n she wouldnt be this serious in sumthing for no reason...........

Kow,

i am on setbox
i wouldnt have the first clue as to how to retrieve links/thread no.'s without help from a friend on pc, all i know is how to point people to post no.'s..ive been asked before to point people to certain threads but its very difficult to prove a point im trying to make when i get yikesed for doing so, prime example, thread on my page 'welcome to h2g2 '..i asked to be left alone by 1 ace, but was provoked into a responce and then warned off by another ace, however all that remains is mostly their posts and a bit of gloating afterwards from 2 aces so you cannot see clearly whats going on in there but i do still have the yikesed posts in email, however according to h2g2 i am not allowed to disclose the information so they have me by the proverbial 'short and curlies'!

Localised Girl,

bless thanks but ive put my pc fund to 1 side for the moment lol

awww ocme on...ive arranged a strip mini-marathon to raise money
lots of participants...u think the aces be up4 it lol

Localised Girl,

erm 'No Comment' lol

Vamp...

Yeh you mean the thread midnight angel and i was in please feel free to say it after all it is a open disscussion after all

And i wasn`t gloteing as far as im aware some one els posted to the thread i was updateing the page so it didn`t get lost in all
the post that i have...
*you see it differently to me that is fair enough every one is welcome to a opinion after all(with in the<./>houserules</.>
of course)

but im sorry didn`t you then leave a message for me when i got on the next day that was hidden i was told about it altho i didn`t actualy see it for my self

The day after leave one for me in the *post*thread trying to pick a fight with me i will get full details of it if its not been hidden please bare with me on that

If there is a point i have missed i will get back with it shortly

Thread name:*post*

Post 27
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from:Insomic vampire
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"I think my chances of Ace hood are pretty slim so by all means ill step aside lol"
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post 28
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from:Intern
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post 29
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from:insomic vampire
to:Intern
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"Its childish isnt it some thing you would all expect from me but you well you have shown yourself up for what you are i dont need to say it`s obviouse?"
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thread you had not posted in before but you posted the above messages to both partie`s
me to cause trouble and prove this point that you are makeing

intern,

you put my name at the top of your post so as i can tell your talking to me but i cant always understand what your saying because you cant spell (and thats not a dig, i have had great trouble deciphering your posts)

yes i was referring to that thread, the 1 where the other ace asked for 'back up' (i can say this because she admitted to it in a previous post on this thread), why i dont know because we was sorting out the misunderstanding until you came in and started taking the 'mickey', but i never said your names as i didnt think i was sposed to..incidently you and the other ace in question both jumped to the conclusion that 'cosmic' was Awol, but you were not sure, yet she was banned anyway! well done, great job


if i did leave a msg in there the following day i cant remember what i said, but if it was me ill have the yikesing stored in email so ill have to check on that, by all means when youve checked it over with your 'sources' (or whomever yikesed it), feel free to remind me

dont keep accusing me of trying to start a fight with you though, i find that comment wholly unfair as i told you early on in that post i did not wish to speak to you yet you persisted in taking the 'mick' did you not? your posts are still there remember, i didnt have an ace pal yikesing on command in there at the time did i?

yes ok if youve missed a point you get back to me

intern,

as a matter of fact i was already in the thread as you yourself have just proved you werent though

and what you failed to add was your responce to that post, i didnt say but you knew exactly what i was referring to which is why you did it, there was no need for it but hey who am i to say i am just a mere researcher who should be mocked, goaded and followed round the site, right?

No i think you mean a different thread to that(no offence)

That thread was started by me a message to sir mort then two more
Aces came in then beautbabe came in and asked how to join the aces
then the 20th post was your`s