h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

im a newbie heh heh

Localised girl

- the reason some posts may get overlooked is that people reply to a post and by the time they have posted it/h2g2 speeds up then others have already posted and things get missed. it happens alot and is unlikely to mean that a post is ignored (although it usually happens to mine )


Now i really must go and do the nails (what a girl i am!)

Jab,

i hate repeating myself but with reference to your post....

(post 101, just been going back looking for it, least things are running a bit quicker now)!

"Obviously i dont expect everyone to agree with me, but the fact that some people have regarding my views on 'some' of the aces, should concern h2g2 italics (or whoever it is we answer to)".

yes but then it gets put upon me n vamp for mentioning it
the person who bought A up has not yet explained y out the blue he accused me of bein him then went on to say y he want to nmention him?
very strange ppl

Reply to post: 183 ~~~Insomniac.Vampire~~~

Re: post 101...

I would say it's safe to state: There are ACEs of mixed ability.

We don't get to choose who is going to welcome us as first-time users.

Possibly if there is need for creating 'accounts' seperate to our personal login, ie. for a project such as a sub-comunity, "The PUB", "The Silly Walk fan club" etc. etc. We could ask an 'Safe ACE' to do it for us.

- Yes this would imply there are some ACEs a user would not wish to be seen with, and something for the 'powers' to consider why any such a remark be made, and by more than one person?

Then again, if troubled by a user the advice given is not to respond to their post. So maybe users need to find a (A Comunity E) that they can work with.

In general, I was making remark about the thread as a whole, have a smile about it. What's done is done...

However if mention is given to situations current, and a 'blame game' in play. Please remember not everybody is able to post links to threads right away (if ever) as they have no browser bar showing the references.

Also consider digibox user, they may be some out there taking advantage of that fact.

If you can't back-up your complaint with a thread reference, then you are wasting your own time.

When you yikes a post, that's it, one post, not the thread, not the series of threads current or past, no dealing with personality , just a blinkered view of one post, this may upset the 'offened' but it's fair. An unbias way to deal with a single post, without emotion.

If something is bothering an individual, then it's left to that person to _do the work_ provide links to as many trouble spots as possible.

One of the ruls of this site is "no spitting." If only they put 'No spatting"

Yep going to stick with: "There are ACEs of mixed ability." - for now

mark

Localised Girl,

2nd attempt at posting you!

i wouldnt take much notice of the researcher, 'im forever losing things but hey could be worse', they are not in this thread to make a worthwhile contribution to the conversation, im afraid they are only here with Awol in mind! (yes i know i mentioned him again)

this 'researcher' opened their account 4 weeks ago and have since changed their username from, (might have missed 1 here, you will excuse me, im forever etc), Mr.Whipple.......or could that be *ipple? to WHIZKID to this current 1..and have since joining up in this account subscribed to the majority of any threads with Awol in them, though i did notice another thread (THE QUEEN FAN CLUB, i believe that is its title though no doubt some in here could correct me ), this thread is filled with aces, most of which have contributed to this thread also and from what i saw in there it seemed clear to me they are all familiar with each other considering they dont appear to know him now? newbie? lol whatever

it is also a coincidence that the pictures on his personal space are the same as 1 of the aces, and it has been noted that this researcher and that aces times coming and going on this site seem to lead me to think it could be the same person but this only circumstancial, im not pointing fingers or jumping to conclusions so dont hold me to it

theres nothing wrong with a researcher changing their username as you know, ive seen that researcher in some threads i admit it ive used some of those pictures i think there nothing wrong with that, i know this is not the main topic of discussion but seeing as you mentioned it i thought i would say something i hope you dont mind


Star Fleet

Vamp....

Do you mean the A607033 Queen fan club(Makeing sure of the facts)
or the one i have in my journal queen songs add one to the list

Just to defend the Aces at this point im not saying its correct or any thing im say a resonable explenation for it could be...

We dont know who is who if they change there name if i changed my name to joe blogs and posted in here you wouldn`t know me as any other than joe blogs
And if he has made friends with them pretending not to know them as in his first account/his/her ace account..it is inpossable to say he is wizzkid/joe blogs etc etc becouse without him saying haha it`s me fred smith it`s a second accound joe blogs you could guess as many times as you like at a regular user or wether it is just a newbie

That lead`s me to the picture thing you saw....
Pictures you can get on site there is no doubt about that and if he has asked some one to do his like another researcher/ace home page picture so that no one is still no the wiser about who it actually is...some researchers dont have no problems with guide ml i have welcomed researchers newbies who have allready got pictures on there space and have no problem so wihout any proof its him /him saying its me blah blah in a thread it could be any one and if any one askes for help
we give it we dont ask who there realy are (hope you get my meaning )

Jab,

thanks for getting back to me, i intended to reply sooner but for reasons i will explain this has proven very difficult!

"there are aces of mixed ability" lol that is a very diplomatic way of putting it, i may use this line myself in the future

"then again, if troubled by a user the advice given is not to respond to their post. so maybe users need to find a(A Community E) they can work with".

and if a researcher is troubled by 'some' aces, whats the advice given? as far as i can tell looking back over this thread, 'some' aces have pointed the finger, mocked my posts and blamed other people for their actions..the word from h2g2 support is the aces do a fine job so what do you suggest? by the way whats A Community E?

"also consider digibox user there may be some out there taking advantage of the fact".

im glad you mentioned this, the reason i was delayed, (see 1st para), in responding to your msg was, as i have been asked by 'some' aces to provide some kind of proof as to what im referring to (i guess they didnt see earlier posts)!, not only am i fighting to make my points heard here, (whilst ignoring the mockery and blaming of any one but themselves or the finger pointing and the pleading of ignorance to some references), i have been up against it with the server, more error pages than the amount of plates smashed at a greek wedding! but i have been trying on my humble digibox to find examples on aces pages, coincidently MANY have recently been unsubscribed to????? (unfortunately i have unsubscribed to many pages too, didnt see the point of stopping in them after) so the aces in question, FOR NOW (i am going to enlist some help of a pc user), can have a breath a short sigh of relief but as i am not on pc i realise this could take me some time (i ask respectfully that people are patient with me), im not going to give up as feel justified in the points raised i have pointed 1 out for reference sake but this seems to have been overlooked, i dont feel as though i am wasting my time and i 'think' h2g2 support has a responsibilty to check things out instead of the odd post stating they are happy with the aces, blah blah blah..they are fobbing us all off and its not good enough!





h2g2 support,

that was not an accusation, more of an observation, id welcome a responce at some point though, all worthwhile comments up to now have been responded too

starfleet,

mind? no not at all, you was very quick to reply there
nothing wrong with using the same pictures at all starfleet, as i did say a 'coincidence' but not a crime

intern,

the thread was entitled 'QUEEN SONGS' an error there in my previous posting

fact: Mr.Whipple/WHIZKID/im forever losing things but hey it could be worse, ARE the same person whether anyone on this threads admits they know him or not!

true in some cases its impossible to guess, though 'some' aces HAVE assumed and prejudged and (though only 1 im aware of), barred new users because they believe them to be someone else!

hope you get my meaning

I.V: Re: (A Comunity E)? I was highlighting (badly) its a community, where we have some freedom of choice.

There are many ACEs in the community and yes, historically they have done a fine job.

Once somebody accused me of being a "wanabe ACE." Well...

To do a proper job, I feel would require constant PC access, a place to save the welcome messages created, for quick copy and paste?

The need to have a ACE page, with all the links, not just My Space personal stuff, current fad's etc. etc?

Some basic working knowledge of the site, ie not be made an ACE within a day/week/month of logging-on?

Willing to risk 'freindships' past and present for simply not getting involved with rows (well out-and-out war) between individuals or groups?

It could mean an end to the mad half hour sessions, even an end to making post that are prone to be moderated.

*points to the top of a sailing ship mast, the workings there* and says "that bit is called b******s." - That is within the House Rules so...

Even though an ACE is not a Guru, some knowledge, at the very least the link to the GuideML pages?

Not so easy as just adding (ACE) to a nickname, may need thought.

It could cut into my 'leisure time' logging on to this site to 'switch off' and have a bit of a read, some interaction with people from different walks of life. possibly, just possibly be able to share knowledge, and just enjoy the fact I don't have to worry about the everyday stuff, unless I choose

Narr, not a wannabe ACE.

Good grief that was nearly diplomatic.

jab...

We are volunteers tho there is no time that we should log on at and a time to log off at and can realy do as much as we like on site if the list is large for newbies we ask other aces to give a hand to get it down quickly as possible so we can enjoy the site as well and been polite all the time and there is only a few times a newbie or some one comes to you for help but its something that is sorted quickly

Vamp.....

ok i dont understand the last bit of it going back to have a look
who ever it was had the same pictures/picture as me
the times i go off and they come on im mr whippy or whatever his name is
just them i didn`t understand

vamp
if u need any help in findin the info u require then u know i can,.,,just guide me where to go...
and i am doin this as support for u all so she can provide u with the necessary information u require...not to maliciously incriminate u all....
i hope u understand my jist of that.....
as u know she cant copy n paste the referred topics so i am able to do so if she requires

oh n to point out im not bothered who that researcher was....
the main point was accussing ppl of bein A by reading posts n assuming...
i gather form no further mention i will not be incriminated again and maybe this is a strong proven account of false accustaions
oh i may not reply for a bit as i have bought myslef a large wkd blue and will be at a mates house enjoying it!! it is friday

Jab,

freedom of choice? what here? you sure? i wasnt aware of that?

then we are in agreement on that point certainly, i believe many aces do a fine job just not all of them

"Some basic working knowledge of the site, ie not be made an ace within a day/week/month of logging on"?

from what i can see most ace pals share information on the workings of the site, (im not knocking that idea), but i think when they are recruiting for new aces the time they've been on this site isnt in question, as i understand it there is an aces test, fantastic if your on a pc cos you just cut and paste all the answers h2g2 want to hear

"Willing to risk 'friendships' past and present for simply not getting involved with rows (well out and out war) between individuals or groups"?

now to be fair i was told by an ace whom ive known for some considerable time and considered as a friend that they would not risk losing there badge for anybody by getting involved in disputes online..and fair play to them, only they did 'get involved' in a dispute with other aces, they made a choice and backed up their ace pals (who also happen to be long term friends though im sure they would tell me that that had nothing to do with there decision), alls fair in aces badges i guess? lol as you said the correct thing to have done would of been to walk away and request someone else deal with it, am i right? ahhh well shame on me for questioning aces on how they deal with situations!

perhaps the purpose of becoming an ace for 'some' aces is to be aware of whats going on in the aces forum, so as they know who to 'spy' on i mean lurk and possibly to settle old scores brought with them from other sites? just a thought

diplomatic? indeed lol lets just hope my thoughts are addressed and the idea of it at least considered

Localised Girl,

thankyou for your offer, i will probably take you up on that offer shortly

Vamp...
1)freedom of choice......
Of course there is freedom of choice within h2g2
You had the choice of accepting the house rules
You have the choice to obaying the house rules or to break them
You have the choice of joining a h2g2 club
You have the choice of wondering freely around h2g2 no restricted access(except volunteer forum)
You have the choise do put what ever pictures/links on you`r home space
You have the choice of leaveing h2g2 without any penaltys(haveing to pay for joining/or paying a fee every month for been on h2g2)
You have the choice of joining a volunteer group
I think there is load`s of choice
in h2g2
Aces info....
The aces that have been on a while know a lot more about h2g2 or about been a ace and dealing with a certain problem so if one ace gets asked something they know they ask another ace this is
not for us it is for the person that want`s to know how to do something 1 ace could know and 1 ace might not so they get the best from the site
Ace back up.......
It is upto whatever ace to make up there own minds about that given question and after thinking about the fact`s in the case and then saying well you have a good point but the way you gone about it is wrong and i never asked midnight to stick up for me im big enoough and ugly enough to do
it my self if im in the right then like you i will defend my opinions if im wrong and proven wrong then i shall say that you was correct and that i wasn`t and
leave it there
Old scores......
Im sorry but this isnt correct at all i haven`t any axe to grind or any scores any scores i had was left in L.D and some of the aces have never been in L.D before and the reason we became ace`s was to help other`s that come on h2g2 who dont know whats what and would`nt be able to get about the
site or know how to do the other things on h2g2
-Intern-

Now, to sum up:

The Aces are a group of volunteers who provide a valuable and extremely helpful service both to new Researchers and to the wider h2g2 community, on an unpaid basis, with the support of the Italics and under their authority.

The Aces have more than one role:

o They welcome new Researchers to the site and answer their questions.

This is the most obvious and visible part of the Aces' work, and is clearly important - everyone was a newbie once.

o They are expected to 'set an example to the rest of the Community by being upstanding members of h2g2 and by embodying the core values of h2g2'.

The Aces are, after all, often the first people that newbies talk to. Aces are expected to behave. And yes, I *do* remember at least one volunteer being stripped of all of their h2g2 badges for not behaving.

o Aces encourage and stimulate participation in h2g2 by pointing Researchers towards things they might enjoy on h2g2.

This comes partly from the welcome messages, but also from ongoing support. The name 'Ace' came from Assistant Community Editor - Peta's old job title was 'Community Editor', I think.

o The Aces are also ' try to calm down heated discussions with a few well-chosen words.'

You'll appreciate that that's quite a lot of stuff to be getting on with - it's all outlined in more depth at <./>Aces-What</.>.

If you have problems with specific Aces, then Yikes their offending posts, get in touch with support as outlined by them above and deal with the problem. There is little point in continuing to argue that the Aces are bad without qualifying that directly with links to *specific* threads that are causing you problems.

Remember that Aces are both human and volunteers. Sometimes, they do things that they may later regret. But they are all, without exception, trying to do their best for h2g2. Otherwise, why would they put in the effort at all?

Whoami?