h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

There is nothing in that thread that incriminates me as a <./>ACE</.>
Nothing in that thread that sugests that there is a witch hunt against ~~Insomniac.vampire~~.
who is not even apart or mentioned in that thread.
there is no
evidence about me anywhere to suggest ive harrassed vamp any where.


For the attention of the mods/italics/aces.


F122233?thread=291053
F122268?thread=290789&skip=0&show=20
F122268?thread=290789&skip=40&show=20
F122268?thread=290789&skip=80&show=20
F122268?thread=290789&skip=120&show=20
F122268?thread=290789&skip=160&show=20 (vamp only posted in this thread a few hours ago,to which no one has posted there for some time,but isnt this trying to aggravate someone?? )
F35246?thread=319972&post=4219096#p4219096
F126865?thread=323624&post=4186978#p4186978
F126865?thread=326747&skip=0&show=20
F126865?thread=285918&skip=40&show=20

I could go on but i think thats enough to show everyone and for everyone to make up there own minds on this matter.

now let the mods/italics make up there own mind with the evedence i have suplied.

When I was doing my business education course, I had to study about the law concerning the internet and pc's in general.

I will be honest and say that there is alot of information and rules that a newbie has to take in and alot of is not in any easy language to understand or take in. I have found it very difficult to understand. When I first joined here I had postings removed becuase I was asking the same information in various postings. No-one ever bothered to tell me there were other ways and more efficient ways of asking information ie feedback or ask h2g2.

I am of very limited education and I find the rules and regulations of h2g2 very difficult to understand as it seems to be written for those people of university education.


mrs kat loup.dargent

Loup...

Yeh sorry i do think that was the correct thread to be honnest
I Think that vamp was pointing out the fact that miss naughty had a slight confrontation with midnight angel but to be fair they did seem to get on as well and that it was nothing more than a missunderstanding between them
I could be wrong

What i dont understand is why my name came up in the convotaion is such a major point???My name came up i never posted in the thread it`s self

I cant talk for the other aces but i have no axe if i had i wouldn`t wanter grind it any how

And lets face it the messagaes that i got while on L.D about some one fiding me and kicking my head in and some one els was going to crippal me you would think that i would have one to grind but you see im a adult grown up and there is no point to retribution

im sorry but i have just gone thru the threads that midnight angel has given n i feel that these r only to show the arguments vamp has had with ppl as if to imcriminate her.....i also noticed my conversation with vamp is there too...therefore once again making me more believin vamps issue here about spyin etc....
i do not mean owt bad against midnight here but thats just what i feel she has put them links up as since there not the specific links vamp is on about regarding aces not doin there job etc.....
its just ones where vamp is arguing with ppl makin her out to only do that on here.....sorry if im wrong but thats what i see....

and i didnt even know midnight was accused of harrassing vamp....the side i heard was the opposite.....
n no i havent read every single word in them links but as i said i feel its a case of findin vamps arguments

I havent read all of them my Back button up here dont work and will find it easy when it works can get to the thread without the messing about

But from what i have read in the threads it dose look like he who can not be named and vamp was haveing a fare old attack on a researcher without much provication at all
And im sure i could dig another 20 thread`s out with same content
but different users

And the threads with the aces been naught are still not here after 3 researchers have said they can cut and past and would do it for her

Altho to side with vamp for a min
Marlo in the first thread could have possably done more to calm the thread down than what he did

so as you can see this situation about behavior can cut both ways not just us but vamp as well

LocalisedGirl Hi

I take your point but that is not the case,
I felt that thread was directed to incrimanise me insome way. BUT for why i still can not work out??

The threads i pointed out is mearly to show that there is plenty of posts on them threads that may should have been removed although some had.

I was barely showing that as Insomiac Vampire thinks That ace's are for ever watching her moves, That i think its not the case other wise i feel some coments by aces would have been said in those thrads, also the posts would have been removed.

May be im wrong but thats all i was pointing out. to show that i dont think ace's are watching her everymove,and also removeing all her posts as claimed by Insomniac her self.

I still cant see the evidence to proove what aces are breaking any rules etc.

MA

Another point i just want to add.
The moment with myself and miss naughty as is shown a missunderstanding by both partys which we went on to carry on talking to each other in a friendly maner.
And still even to today still pass the time of day when ever we come across each other. so i realy cant see any problem with that thread,Im not makeing any excuses and if found ive done wrong only to happy to put my hand up and admit,but as it goes i feel there is no waranted complaint regarding that thread.

Intern / all: e-mail to ask who to pass on messages to, that's all I said and meant.

ie. Find who can sort-it,
or provide support in the building of any case. ie. Midnight, "did the work" finding thread references in a post above. Loup has a yikes 'channel' for digibox (and I'd risk a guess anybody with duff browsers) to use.

Intern: "Post complaints on an individual ACEs personal space."

That would break the spirit of, if not the exact wording of the House Rules. ie. Don't make each othe look stupid in the eyes of others with malice?

_Anybody_: If a user is in conflict with an ACE what should they do?

Statement of indemnity: I have no complaint with anybody in this thread, only it was skirting around the issues. Possibly people trying to be diplomatic, and not name names in the wrong place?

Jab...

Ahh I think i totaly missed the point there but i do see now tho

MIDNIGHT ANGEL
i didnt mean that msg to incriminate u....i have no reason to do this and if my msg looked like that i apologise as that was not intended n not my point...
i know vamp very well and not stickin up for her as a result of this but was pointing out it seemed u posted threads to show vamp as a troublemaker and her point here bein useless thats all
and yes i agree that sum threads shouldve been modified..
one of vamps posts was y r sum her her msgs yiksed thru using the word bleep to cover a swear word when a user there (dont know if i can name but u will have seen it) has put the offensive word in (many times) and used the star key on one letter ....
as vamp has said many ties she is on digibox n no has not supplied evidence but do u realise how long it takes on there to go thru many threads? she is workin on it believe me.....so i think its best for everytones time n patience that only relevant msgs be posted here rather tahn just the odd opinion that not every1 agrees on.....

""so i think its best for everytones time n patience that only relevant msgs be posted here rather tahn just the odd opinion that not every1 agrees on""

I agree LocalisedGirl, having just read the backlog and caught up.(some long posts there!)

Vamps is doing as requested and looking for posts as an example to her initial comments.

Some have been clarified - such as the actual mechanics of the complaints procedure, official duties of aces etc

Rather than anymore misunderstandings etc, if we wait until she has dug out some posts then we can have a look and respond then

As for LD, whilst you may have associated on that site, this is h2g2 and if there was any problems there, then they are not relevant to here unless someone has comitted an offence against the houserules of this site. So best leave it there.

Let's wait to hear from vamps

Mort

Loupy,

yeah thats the 1 i meant, im not saying theres anything that wants yikseing im just saying for intern to say there is no axe to grind and no grievances from other sites, some of the posts in that thread are a contradiction of what he said, simple as that

all the names mentioned on some of those early posts were all LD users, chatting is also another site where ex LDers go, there is a lot of problems on that site too relating to old grievances aswell

mark

Loup,

yes thankyou i know yourself and Mort have offered to cut and paste for me but mostly with the help an ace/aces and an old friend, of which i have known for some considerable time, i would prefer to use them to help me as i dont know either of you but appreciate the offer, also i have spent some considerable time looking for the examples id like to be put on here too..the problem has been the digibox and the amount of error pages ive encountered whilst trying to do this!

i know you mentioned before that if the editors/italics saw a problem they would definately deal with it, (i do actually read these posts and feel perhaps not everybody else does or at least fully understand whats being said), and i have been advised to take this to email with them..im just saying though i dont dispute what theyre saying but i dont agree thats the case with all of them, and i dont feel as though they are very interested in anything ive said up till now, taking my concerns into email i dont think will solve anything just take it out of public sight and out of mind which im sure a lot of people would be happy about

"some aces have pointed the finger, mocked my posts and blamed other people for their actions"

"there might of been a bit of that......."

dont commit yourself 1 way or the other will you lol either there has or there hasnt

Loup, i understand that anyone accused of something has every right to defend themselves, no dispute there but you yourself told me i was not allowed to mention names, yet 'some' aces all through this thread have treated every single 1 of my posts as a single attack on them when i have not specifically brought a name into it......why? guilty condcience?

just out of interest Loup, everyone in here has said wheres the proof? and a fair point but if i cannot mention names im not sure how i can continue making certain points or indeed proving certain facts when without a name i cannot direct people to the right place, an ace has suggested to me offline today infact, i should ask in this thread would i be able in making particular points rather than post up certain names post U numbers instead? this would be so as i could prove what was said and by whom in the aces forum, what was said about me and other researchers is not important, ive known about certain comments for sometime but to say i am aware of what is going on in an area thats posts are confidential, i would be giving some direction as to where the comments were put so you would all know what ive said is true with regard to that matter

"please tell me youve missed some words in here"

lol yep that never came over at all how i intended! somebody impartial indeed but not someone who's only going to agree with me, someone who doesnt give 2 hoots to anyone or anything in this thread would be more appropriate

anyone who'd like to offer an unbiased ear is welcome to leave there email in here for me

i am concerned about the posts i get back in email, the reasons do seem to be non specific in many of them, but let me just say what gets me most is when i say something, (which could be a certain word, a or whatever), im not moaning so much cos ive been yikesed, my complaint and let me be clear about this, is the fact other people in the same context, humourously, or in an aggressive manner have said the same things and there posts have been overlooked, im including aces when i say this, it just seems to me there is some double standards going on here and i also believe this problem became prominent after an incident involving another researcher because before this i could post lots of things even i questioned being allowed to get away but seeing as ive seen 'words' posted elsewhere i didnt think too much about it until then

when you say i can appeal to a modded post, do you mean by replying to it? if you do ive replied to many of them but they seem to have been ignored.....
yikesed/modded? w

Loup,

yes thankyou i know yourself and Mort have offered to cut and paste for me but mostly with the help an ace/aces and an old friend, of which i have known for some considerable time, i would prefer to use them to help me as i dont know either of you but appreciate the offer, also i have spent some considerable time looking for the examples id like to be put on here too..the problem has been the digibox and the amount of error pages ive encountered whilst trying to do this!

i know you mentioned before that if the editors/italics saw a problem they would definately deal with it, (i do actually read these posts and feel perhaps not everybody else does or at least fully understand whats being said), and i have been advised to take this to email with them..im just saying though i dont dispute what theyre saying but i dont agree thats the case with all of them, and i dont feel as though they are very interested in anything ive said up till now, taking my concerns into email i dont think will solve anything just take it out of public sight and out of mind which im sure a lot of people would be happy about

"some aces have pointed the finger, mocked my posts and blamed other people for their actions"

"there might of been a bit of that......."

dont commit yourself 1 way or the other will you lol either there has or there hasnt

Loup, i understand that anyone accused of something has every right to defend themselves, no dispute there but you yourself told me i was not allowed to mention names, yet 'some' aces all through this thread have treated every single 1 of my posts as a single attack on them when i have not specifically brought a name into it......why? guilty condcience?

just out of interest Loup, everyone in here has said wheres the proof? and a fair point but if i cannot mention names im not sure how i can continue making certain points or indeed proving certain facts when without a name i cannot direct people to the right place, an ace has suggested to me offline today infact, i should ask in this thread would i be able in making particular points rather than post up certain names post U numbers instead? this would be so as i could prove what was said and by whom in the aces forum, what was said about me and other researchers is not important, ive known about certain comments for sometime but to say i am aware of what is going on in an area thats posts are confidential, i would be giving some direction as to where the comments were put so you would all know what ive said is true with regard to that matter

"please tell me youve missed some words in here"

lol yep that never came over at all how i intended! somebody impartial indeed but not someone who's only going to agree with me, someone who doesnt give 2 hoots to anyone or anything in this thread would be more appropriate

anyone who'd like to offer an unbiased ear is welcome to leave there email in here for me

i am concerned about the posts i get back in email, the reasons do seem to be non specific in many of them, but let me just say what gets me most is when i say something, (which could be a certain word, a or whatever), im not moaning so much cos ive been yikesed, my complaint and let me be clear about this, is the fact other people in the same context, humourously, or in an aggressive manner have said the same things and there posts have been overlooked, im including aces when i say this, it just seems to me there is some double standards going on here and i also believe this problem became prominent after an incident involving another researcher because before this i could post lots of things even i questioned being allowed to get away but seeing as ive seen 'words' posted elsewhere i didnt think too much about it until then

when you say i can appeal to a modded post, do you mean by replying to it? if you do ive replied to many of them but they seem to have been ignored.....
yikesed/modded? w

Loup,

yes thankyou i know yourself and Mort have offered to cut and paste for me but mostly with the help an ace/aces and an old friend, of which i have known for some considerable time, i would prefer to use them to help me as i dont know either of you but appreciate the offer, also i have spent some considerable time looking for the examples id like to be put on here too..the problem has been the digibox and the amount of error pages ive encountered whilst trying to do this!

i know you mentioned before that if the editors/italics saw a problem they would definately deal with it, (i do actually read these posts and feel perhaps not everybody else does or at least fully understand whats being said), and i have been advised to take this to email with them..im just saying though i dont dispute what theyre saying but i dont agree thats the case with all of them, and i dont feel as though they are very interested in anything ive said up till now, taking my concerns into email i dont think will solve anything just take it out of public sight and out of mind which im sure a lot of people would be happy about

"some aces have pointed the finger, mocked my posts and blamed other people for their actions"

"there might of been a bit of that......."

dont commit yourself 1 way or the other will you lol either there has or there hasnt

Loup, i understand that anyone accused of something has every right to defend themselves, no dispute there but you yourself told me i was not allowed to mention names, yet 'some' aces all through this thread have treated every single 1 of my posts as a single attack on them when i have not specifically brought a name into it......why? guilty condcience?

just out of interest Loup, everyone in here has said wheres the proof? and a fair point but if i cannot mention names im not sure how i can continue making certain points or indeed proving certain facts when without a name i cannot direct people to the right place, an ace has suggested to me offline today infact, i should ask in this thread would i be able in making particular points rather than post up certain names post U numbers instead? this would be so as i could prove what was said and by whom in the aces forum, what was said about me and other researchers is not important, ive known about certain comments for sometime but to say i am aware of what is going on in an area thats posts are confidential, i would be giving some direction as to where the comments were put so you would all know what ive said is true with regard to that matter

"please tell me youve missed some words in here"

lol yep that never came over at all how i intended! somebody impartial indeed but not someone who's only going to agree with me, someone who doesnt give 2 hoots to anyone or anything in this thread would be more appropriate

anyone who'd like to offer an unbiased ear is welcome to leave there email in here for me

i am concerned about the posts i get back in email, the reasons do seem to be non specific in many of them, but let me just say what gets me most is when i say something, (which could be a certain word, a or whatever), im not moaning so much cos ive been yikesed, my complaint and let me be clear about this, is the fact other people in the same context, humourously, or in an aggressive manner have said the same things and there posts have been overlooked, im including aces when i say this, it just seems to me there is some double standards going on here and i also believe this problem became prominent after an incident involving another researcher because before this i could post lots of things even i questioned being allowed to get away but seeing as ive seen 'words' posted elsewhere i didnt think too much about it until then

when you say i can appeal to a modded post, do you mean by replying to it? if you do ive replied to many of them but they seem to have been ignored.....
yikesed/modded? w

Loup,

yes thankyou i know yourself and Mort have offered to cut and paste for me but mostly with the help an ace/aces and an old friend, of which i have known for some considerable time, i would prefer to use them to help me as i dont know either of you but appreciate the offer, also i have spent some considerable time looking for the examples id like to be put on here too..the problem has been the digibox and the amount of error pages ive encountered whilst trying to do this!

i know you mentioned before that if the editors/italics saw a problem they would definately deal with it, (i do actually read these posts and feel perhaps not everybody else does or at least fully understand whats being said), and i have been advised to take this to email with them..im just saying though i dont dispute what theyre saying but i dont agree thats the case with all of them, and i dont feel as though they are very interested in anything ive said up till now, taking my concerns into email i dont think will solve anything just take it out of public sight and out of mind which im sure a lot of people would be happy about

"some aces have pointed the finger, mocked my posts and blamed other people for their actions"

"there might of been a bit of that......."

dont commit yourself 1 way or the other will you lol either there has or there hasnt

Loup, i understand that anyone accused of something has every right to defend themselves, no dispute there but you yourself told me i was not allowed to mention names, yet 'some' aces all through this thread have treated every single 1 of my posts as a single attack on them when i have not specifically brought a name into it......why? guilty condcience?

just out of interest Loup, everyone in here has said wheres the proof? and a fair point but if i cannot mention names im not sure how i can continue making certain points or indeed proving certain facts when without a name i cannot direct people to the right place, an ace has suggested to me offline today infact, i should ask in this thread would i be able in making particular points rather than post up certain names post U numbers instead? this would be so as i could prove what was said and by whom in the aces forum, what was said about me and other researchers is not important, ive known about certain comments for sometime but to say i am aware of what is going on in an area thats posts are confidential, i would be giving some direction as to where the comments were put so you would all know what ive said is true with regard to that matter

"please tell me youve missed some words in here"

lol yep that never came over at all how i intended! somebody impartial indeed but not someone who's only going to agree with me, someone who doesnt give 2 hoots to anyone or anything in this thread would be more appropriate

anyone who'd like to offer an unbiased ear is welcome to leave there email in here for me

i am concerned about the posts i get back in email, the reasons do seem to be non specific in many of them, but let me just say what gets me most is when i say something, (which could be a certain word, a or whatever), im not moaning so much cos ive been yikesed, my complaint and let me be clear about this, is the fact other people in the same context, humourously, or in an aggressive manner have said the same things and there posts have been overlooked, im including aces when i say this, it just seems to me there is some double standards going on here and i also believe this problem became prominent after an incident involving another researcher because before this i could post lots of things even i questioned being allowed to get away but seeing as ive seen 'words' posted elsewhere i didnt think too much about it until then

when you say i can appeal to a modded post, do you mean by replying to it? if you do ive replied to many of them but they seem to have been ignored.....
yikesed/modded? w

Loup,

yes thankyou i know yourself and Mort have offered to cut and paste for me but mostly with the help an ace/aces and an old friend, of which i have known for some considerable time, i would prefer to use them to help me as i dont know either of you but appreciate the offer, also i have spent some considerable time looking for the examples id like to be put on here too..the problem has been the digibox and the amount of error pages ive encountered whilst trying to do this!

i know you mentioned before that if the editors/italics saw a problem they would definately deal with it, (i do actually read these posts and feel perhaps not everybody else does or at least fully understand whats being said), and i have been advised to take this to email with them..im just saying though i dont dispute what theyre saying but i dont agree thats the case with all of them, and i dont feel as though they are very interested in anything ive said up till now, taking my concerns into email i dont think will solve anything just take it out of public sight and out of mind which im sure a lot of people would be happy about

"some aces have pointed the finger, mocked my posts and blamed other people for their actions"

"there might of been a bit of that......."

dont commit yourself 1 way or the other will you lol either there has or there hasnt

Loup, i understand that anyone accused of something has every right to defend themselves, no dispute there but you yourself told me i was not allowed to mention names, yet 'some' aces all through this thread have treated every single 1 of my posts as a single attack on them when i have not specifically brought a name into it......why? guilty condcience?

just out of interest Loup, everyone in here has said wheres the proof? and a fair point but if i cannot mention names im not sure how i can continue making certain points or indeed proving certain facts when without a name i cannot direct people to the right place, an ace has suggested to me offline today infact, i should ask in this thread would i be able in making particular points rather than post up certain names post U numbers instead? this would be so as i could prove what was said and by whom in the aces forum, what was said about me and other researchers is not important, ive known about certain comments for sometime but to say i am aware of what is going on in an area thats posts are confidential, i would be giving some direction as to where the comments were put so you would all know what ive said is true with regard to that matter

"please tell me youve missed some words in here"

lol yep that never came over at all how i intended! somebody impartial indeed but not someone who's only going to agree with me, someone who doesnt give 2 hoots to anyone or anything in this thread would be more appropriate

anyone who'd like to offer an unbiased ear is welcome to leave there email in here for me

i am concerned about the posts i get back in email, the reasons do seem to be non specific in many of them, but let me just say what gets me most is when i say something, (which could be a certain word, a or whatever), im not moaning so much cos ive been yikesed, my complaint and let me be clear about this, is the fact other people in the same context, humourously, or in an aggressive manner have said the same things and there posts have been overlooked, im including aces when i say this, it just seems to me there is some double standards going on here and i also believe this problem became prominent after an incident involving another researcher because before this i could post lots of things even i questioned being allowed to get away but seeing as ive seen 'words' posted elsewhere i didnt think too much about it until then

when you say i can appeal to a modded post, do you mean by replying to it? if you do ive replied to many of them but they seem to have been ignored.....
yikesed/modded? w

Insomniac Vampire, I am now going to explain something to you. I would like you to read this very carefully.

In the postings quoted above, you have been acting in a manner which has offended other Researchers, not without good reason, either. I would like to remind you of the following sections of the <./>HouseRules</.>. Please note that I am not accusing you of having already necessarily flaunted these. I am simply reminding you of what the document says so that there is no possibility that you're not aware of them...

Flaming & Trolling:

"Please, no flaming or trolling. On h2g2, flaming means posting something that's angry and mean-spirited - the online equivalent of flying off the handle. It's not a pretty sight, and we recommend constructive discussion as a far more satisfying pastime. Trolls say deliberately provocative things just to stir up trouble - it's not polite, so please don't do it. h2g2 is an incredibly friendly place, so please help to keep it that way."

Content of messages:

"...harassing, defamatory, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, profane, ... or otherwise objectionable material is not acceptable. You'll notice 'profane' in the list here. This means that hardcore swearing is not allowed on h2g2. All the types of content above break these House Rules. Please don't post it, or you may find we close down your account if you keep breaking the rules."

Whoami?