h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

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and for digibox users, whilst they cannot access specific link addresses, the page the thread can be found on, the title of the thread and the post(s) numbers are necessary for a pc user to yikes them.

Italics require 'F links'

if there wasnt aces then hell would break loose n this owuldnt be a nice site to go on so any chat site/forum is required to be monitored.
but when a member has a problem with how aces r dealing with things its not relevant to post what ur job is if sum1 thinks u r breaking (remember im not pointin out ppl here as i myself do not know who the allegations r against) the rules or bein unreasonable then it should be bought up n sorted.....
i agree this is a nuisance when we r goin backwqards n forwards since there is no proof but i have stated that if need be i will volunteer to paste msgs from vamp who cant herself to show all the specific threads she is referring to

yes the italics do require F links, but with that info a digibox user gives, the pc user can then retrieve the 'F'links and 'P' number and then yikes giving the correct info to the mods

call me thick but what exactly r these italics?

like whiomi said i think this thread is done and dusted for now
untill proof is posted

Oi thick!

LMAO

italics are people employed to be on h2g2 who over see site.head the improvments to the site

Oh when anybody says "Call me..." Can't resit. Sorry

"The italics" They run this joint in effect. You asking the question, hmm on page one, is there not a link to this sites structure?

Intern: I already said before unless people can provide evidence by link - they are wasting there own time.

Sometimes a bit dodgy though naming names? It's probably best to ask an ACE for an e-mail address, to ask for advice 'off-screen'. Give them a chance to fail there, rather than a slanging match?

oi jab i said call me thick but u didnt have to pmsl
n ok ta 4 that ..... just so i know what ur talkin about lol
n yer i think unless statements r bein posted that ppl want to retaliate to then prrof 1st so we can at least have sumthing to go on
as i said i can aid vamp in this request so we shall see

Jab...

Yeh a good idea but not practical realy giveing out our E-Mail addy
As soon as we give them out any mail we get on there whoever sent
the mail can not be held accountable for them on h2g2 couse the house rules do not cover E-Mails becouse it is off site
And the first sighn of problems you can bet the addy would be up to the highes`t bidder for the ace`aces involved
Thats why i wouldn`t give mine out to any one i don`t know

Thats why i thought my idea each new thread on the aces home page should be for one condemd ace name and reason for complaint againsed them
And that way its still on site and can be monniterd as well

helloooooooo

intern,

with reference to post 199....

old scores...

you said you havent an axe to grind or, (i think you said), any old scores were left in LD? is tha right? and would you say that was true of all aces, (specifically them who are ex LD)?

may i draw your attention to a thread on starfleets page?
as you are aware i cannot make it a direct link in blue but i think this is enough information for people to find the thread in question.....

starfleets current page (not the other name 'Mad ?? Im Livid')
subject: no subject
posted Aug 3rd, 2003

without mentioning your name, (i dont have to the 2 aces in question brought your name into that thread aswell)

now tell me again intern, 'some' aces do not bring their grievances from 1 site to another
id like you to repeat that statement for the benefit of all

intern,

this thread is far from done and dusted, the reason for a delay from me in posting is because, (as everyone keeps pointing out i am on digibox), i have been trying to locate specific examples to back up my claims and 'some' of the aces

and until this matter is resolved i dont think its your place to make that decision, i have a right as a researcher to make my points heard, and as you said you want 'proof' well let me get on and find proof, however, i must say i am disappointed in the general attitude of 'some' of the aces and h2g2 support considering i have already given examples which it seems have been overlooked! someone correct me if im wrong? anyone?


watch this space

Jab,

in responce to post 209...

i am prepared to discuss things offline in email, id welcome someone IMPARTIAL to tell me im not going nuts and my posts (though some granted im no way disputing that), are yikesed for the pettiest of reasons, the only reason ive held back on going to h2g2 with my concerns is because they do not 'seem' at all concerned with anything ive said to this point and are not it would 'appear' interested as their input into this thread has been minimal.......

Insomniac Vampire...

I've got a link but i'm not sure if it's the one you meant...

F124536?thread=302298

If it is, could you tell us the post[s] number[s] which you think prove[s] your point?!...

loup.dargent

>am i on some sort of trial here? im just wondering as there seems to be 3 of my
posts in this thread people have been directed to and i can assure you if i was
on pc i would be delighted to point out threads where 'other' 'posts' have been
overlooked<

Insomniac Vampire...

On trial?!... nope, if you were i would have worded my postings differently...
They were there to show what i meant with my advices... you followed the advices given... great... that _was_ the idea...


The pasting issue.... I have said more than once that if you needed some links to posts/threads to be provided on here, you just needed to give us the details
[name of the thread and post number] and someone will do it for you...

So, i'm rather surprised it was still seen as a problem until earlier...

>and if a researcher is troubled by 'some' aces, whats the advice given? as far as i can tell looking back over this thread, 'some' aces have pointed the finger, mocked my posts and blamed other people for their actions.. the word from h2g2 support is the aces do a fine job so what do you suggest?<

h2g2 support... Yes, the Editors have said that the ACEs are doing a good job...
and why not?!... The ACEs are an important part of h2g2 and do indeed a good job considering that they are only Volunteers...
But, the editors/italics have also advised that the details of the complaints be send to them so that they can look into it...

I mentioned before that from what i've seen through my lurkings, if the Editors find something wrong with the accused ACEs' actions they will definitely deal with it...

>'some' aces have pointed the finger, mocked my posts and blamed other people for their actions<

There might have been a bit of that, but compared to other threads i've seen when it comes to criticise a group/community/etc, this convo is actually quite civil...
and we have managed to address some points already or at least clarify [up to a point anyway] certain misconceptions...

And yes, when people defend themselves, they tend to blame whoever or/and whatever they _feel_ has influenced their alleged behaviour... It's part of the process unfortunately, unless those accused were supposed to keep quiet?!...

>id welcome someone IMPARTIAL to tell me im not going nuts and my posts (though some granted im no way disputing that), are yikesed for the pettiest of reasons,<

Please, tell me that you've missed some words in here.. it reads like _only_ someone telling you that you're right would be accepted as "impartial"...

The yikessing issue... if a lot of your posts have been yikesed but do not get modded then probably the reasons given in the complaints were not strong enough... and if that number is rather large then yep, there could be a good reason for concern...

If they have been modded [as in removed] then they were seen by the Mods as breaking the Rules... If you feel that they have been modded for the wrong reason, you can appeal through the email addy provided in the emails sent by the Mods...

I mentioned that as i'm a bit confused about this issue... are you complaining about your posts being modded or yikesed?!... and as you mentioned that your postings get the full modding while other people's ones only get some words starred, i was wondering if you felt that all your postings were systematically modded when yikesed while others would not in the same situation...


Everyone...

I was not really prepared to post today as i intended to resume my posting activities tomorrow [after a good needed rest]... and hopefully i will be able to reply to more posters' comments soon... in short, i'm not ignoring anyone....

Talk soon...

loup

why has my name been mentioned ?? im i one of the "some" aces your not happy with ?? if so then why

loup ive just looked at the thread i didnt see anything wrong there


Star Fleet

>another point id just like to add (not sure if ive raised this issue before, sorry if i have i forget), why are we allowed to use the ' ' smiley if in my case its offensive? (and more often than not yikesed), i thought the point of the was so as you dont put a swear word in your post..personally i would of thought st*rr*ng a word was more offensive cos then everyone knows exactly what you mean! and while im mentioning it, how comes when i have the odd offensive in my post the mods dont just star it as is done with many other users? not that im complaining, whats done is done im just curious<

The smiley... Kind of covered already in a previous post in the first page [that's for visitors to this threads who might not have read the backlog...]:

'If i post something with for example "what the f**k" in it [i edited the word myself by the way, but hopefully people will understand what word i'm referring to.. ], chances are that the word will be starred out pretty fast if a researcher yikeses the post on the ground that it contains an offensive word...

If instead of posting "what the f**k" i post "you're a f**k" to another researcher, there will be two options: 1) someone yikeses my post on the ground that i used an offensive word and the word gets starred out [i call that getting off lightly] or 2) someone yikeses the post on the ground that i'm being abusive to another researcher and my post gets failed and removed/hidden [ooops]... of course, that will depend of the tone used etc as well...

I've noticed before that some people on h2g2 [including established h2g2ers] have the false impression that they can get away with insulting other researchers if they starr out the offensive words themselves before posting the abusive message... Doesn't always work i'm afraid... "you're a f**k" when posted as an insult is _still_ an insult...
Changing the letters' order in the word won't make any difference either...

The same with the smileys... if i post "you're a " in an abusive way to another researcher i take the risk of seing my posting been modded as well...

It all depends of the complaint made at the time of the yikesing really...'

And, of course, a posting can be seen as offensive/abusive even so there is no swear words in it...

I will elaborate a bit more on all that once i've posted the overdue reply regarding the tea shop example...





loup.dargent

Starfleet...

That's why i was not sure it was the right thread in the first place and asked Insomniac Vampire to tell us which post[s] she thinks prove[s] her point... I can't find anything in the thread which irrefutably [sp?!] does that for the moment either i'm afraid...

The point was somewhere in this comment i think :
>you said you havent an axe to grind or, (i think you said), any old scores were left in LD? is tha right? and would you say that was true of all aces, (specifically them who are ex LD)?<

Which is a reply to Intern who stated that he hasn't any axe to grind from the old site... Why he is asked if it's the same for all ACEs [especially ex-LDers] is confusing me i must admit as it seems that we're going into full speculations mode there...




loup.dargent