h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Well discounting that one exeption...
I meant the rest of us...
I never felt particularly virginal aftr giving birth!
*waves to Matt*

I didn't say I wanted you more straightforward... I was just stating the fact...

Jamie.

I was more worried and afraid and it was more painful and uncomfortable after baby than the very first time at all. That's what I mean by being virgin twice. They just stitched me too well.
Hati

*ouch*
I only had stitches once, thank goodness.

Well, the second time was no so awful. I didn't feel so virgin then, too.

It's probably a good thing I didn't get any stiches after loosing mine...

I've read about ladies, who are paying a lot to get their "virginity" back. Does it make sense?

Not to me it doesn't.

However, if these women are living in a society where it is absolutely crucial that women stay virgins until marriage I can surely see the point.

Sad, though - really!

Even is this case the reasons for being married as virgin are religious. And it is not about the condition of somebodys hymen.

But you have to show the bloody sheets don't you - I thought that was why the people had themselves re-virginised (at least, in the Moslem world) And don't start on female circumcision here, it's too awful.

~drops in as she hasn't been here for ages, screams in terror and runs out again~

It's a curse - and don't you make no god is responsible for it! Blame it entirely on society!

Why not to blame it on men? A friend of mine, Silja - she went to live in Pakistan for some years, and she says it's only about men to keep this kind of tradition. Recently an English origin woman was killed there by her own husband (moslem), because she was homesick and communicated with europeans and americans. He said she was not faithful. Maybe she wasn't, I don't know, but killing... I had no idea about this kind of people before, as where I live there are no moslems at all. In this kind of cases virginity must be really the matter of life or death.
Hati

True, but only to a certain degree. In many cases the mothers are just as eager to get their daughters circumsized as the fathers. In fact I'm told that in Somalia and Egypt it is usually a woman-matter only and that men seldom have anything to do with it.

BTW: Women are half the world (a little more than half in fact). I believe that makes them at least somewhat responsible for things like this, don't you?

Sure. But still it's mainly matter of religion not sex. And there must be some reasons why all this happens mainly in Asia or Africa. Here, somewhere in Europa, our girls feel to get rid of their virginity in the age of 13-14 for not to seem unexperienced. this is a tendence that frightens me. I found a teenagers newspaper in web, girls write to the newspaper about their sex-problems, having an abortion, 20 different partners etc etc in the age of 11-12. Where do we end this way?

I have heard of female circumcision.
It's positively brutal.

It IS brutal. And the aim of that is brutal too.

It may be a matter of religion but it was not invented by the moslems - it is a tradition way older than that. Anyway it should be banned worldwide imidiately!

I wonder if moslems and jews are children of a lesser god - since they believe they have to "improve" his/her creations?

I think it is somewhat exagerated that many 11-12 year old girls havde many different partners (unless they are forced to prostitute themselves, but that is quite another problem)? If a girl of say 14 has already developed her natural sexual apetite she should enjoy life. Why should we point fingers at her?

It is not only about enjoying. What about 13yr-old mothers, increasing rate of abortions and rapidly spreading AIDS?
Joy is much easier to learn compare to responsibility

you lern every thing from your own personal cercamstances. they very between differnt people but the result is always the same. who you are is what you have don. well actually that initself is wrong because it is not what you do it is what it does to you.
(sorry if that is alittle obscure but I am not exactly sober)