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I find it hard to believe that bar staff would find it hard to ask someone to leave for wearing pyjamas. I've seen people asked to leave (or denied entrance) for wearing trainers rather than shoes, for wearing sports shirts, for wearing muddy boots, or for wearing work clothes. So I don't think they're too shy about these things!

I haven't spent much time in bars, so I have to take other people's word for what is and isn't allowed there -- that, and various movie scenes that were set in bars. Also, there may be a lot of variation in the way different bars are run.

Why would a bar object to someone wearing work clothes? That doesn't make sense to me. If there's a sign at the entrance requiring shirts and shoes, that I can understand. Somebody who violates a posted rule is asking for expulsion. Has anyone here ever seen a "no pajamas" rule posted at the entrance to a bar?

Depends on the bar, and the type of work clothes.... walking in a rahter posh hotel bar, and depositing oil, mud, and dirt all over their soft furnishings would be unacceptible, whereas someone in office attire would be less likely to cause offense, or indeed damage Simularly, walking into a bar, wearing swimming costume, might be acceptible when one's near the seaside, and bars in such areas, but might get people a bit mythed in a trendy wine bar in a city

"I haven't spent much time in bars"

Never mind, it's never too late to turn your life around

PP, we are NOT discussing whether pajamas are proper *OUTDOOR* wear, we are discussing whether they are proper wear *IN A PUB*.


And I see nothing wrong with it and neither does the barman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJWX1XiS-TU

>>people shouldn't be ostracized from society over which bunch of animal fibers cut into the general shape of a human body they want to drape over their walking skeleton. Be they pajamas or be they black trenchcoats!

"What about something like wearing a Nazi uniform in a Jewish area?"


Well, now, come on, they're just asking for it.

That said, perhaps there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for it. For instance, they could be an actor that's on his way to perform one of the bad guys in Sound of Music.



"[...] If there's a sign at the entrance requiring shirts and shoes, that I can understand."

But apparently pants are optional.

If pajamas are good enough for Arthur Dent, and the bartender at the Horse & Groom, that's good enough for me.

Dwight D. Eisenhower, during his cadet years, once showed up at a formal military dinner without pants, as they'd not been mentioned in his uniform orders.
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To be sure, not the same situation as at a beachfront entertainment place with the "No Shirt, No shoes, No Service!" sign.

In the USA, pajamas, so long as they're reasonably conservative, are tolerated so long as you don't go farther from your front door than you have to to pick up your mail or newspaper and don't linger farther from your front door than the front porch, if you have one.

Otherwise the questions rising in people's minds will be asked.

Oh yes, another popular sign of relevance found hanging behind bars and in miscellaneous establishments of other kinds, besides "No Shirts, No Shoes, No Service!" is the more generalized, "We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service To Anyone.".

>>That said, perhaps there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for it. For instance, they could be an actor that's on his way to perform one of the bad guys in Sound of Music.

OK, so it's all down to context?

Yep - I'd agree with that - context is key. Wearing pyjamas in a cafe in a hospital would be considered normal, but in a branch of the same cafe chain in a trendy city centre probably wouldn't be. Going to the Bournemouth seafront Harry Ramsdens* takeaway in swimming trunks normal, going to the one in Sheffield's busy Meadowhall shopping centre wearing only trunks in might get you arrested.

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*Other fish 'n' chips are available. I fancy fish and chips now...

You've convinced me.

Fish and chips it is and then bed... just as soon as I crank out one more email that needs to go in tonight.

1:30am PDT

damnit... I want fish n chips now too... and I've not even finished breakfast yet what were we talking about? yeh... contex seem to be the main factor... I've known plenty of pubs/bars, where dropping oil and dirt from ones workclothes, really wasn't a problem, due to the type of bar/pub, and the type of people who went to it, but, another pub/bar, a few minutes walk away, I don't think they'd be particularly happy if customers came in with such work attire on... Heck.... there are some bars I'd wear my BDSM leather corset too... and others I most certainly wouldn't Just a case of sense of proportion and balance, and being sensible about such things... Mind.... if certain major 'big chain' cafes, bars, pubs etc, wanted to get snotty about how I chose to dress.... they'd certainly get an earful from me

>>In the USA, pajamas, so long as they're reasonably conservative, are tolerated so long as you don't go farther from your front door than you have to to pick up your mail or newspaper and don't linger farther from your front door than the front porch, if you have one.<< - ITIWBS


So, you don't shop at Walmart very often?

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/robe-dope/
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/still-sleepy/
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?s=pajamas&submit=Submit



*While browsing "Walmart Fashion" for these, I was quite surprised I didn't see more like them. I had to see so many more people who had soiled themselves than were wearing PJs. My conclusion is that people wearing PJs in Walmart is not considered that outstanding, they're rather mundane.

"so it's all down to context?" [Quotes]

Pretty much.

actually... talking of an in context clothing rleated thing....

In my last job (office based, and I mainly worked from home, but occasionally had to travel to the local office, or into the one in London, or somtimes to conferency type thinggys)... for the stuff at the office here, or the one in London, the company had this silly smart casual thinggy, for dress... So I purposefully disobeyed this and just wore suit tie, proper shoes, shirt etc; because its so much easier to adopt that kinda thing, than trying to figure out what exactly is and isn't acceptible within 'smart/casual'... got told off a few times, but having explained why, they gave in and let me dress more tidily than the managers and big boss - wheras, I'm guessing, totally failing to 'get' the smart/casual thing, and turn up in my scuba gear (yeh, like I own any ... but...), or... I dunno, some entirely unsuitable clothing, would I guess have not been tolerated... I always think that this kinda thing must be easier for us males; your not really ever 'overdressed' as such in a white shirt, suit, tie, etc.... Mind, I make do these days with jeans and a shirt plus leather boots most of the time but... then... I don't own any pyjamas horrible things...

I suppose it depends on whether you're wearing a tie with your SCUBA gear.

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I've never worn scuba gear perosnally.... I thought it was standard to wear it with a bow-tie?

really... i always thought a tailcoat was the standard with scuba gear, don't tell me thats where I've been going wrong all this time!

no wonder people look at me oddly

No, 2legs, it's standard to wear scuba gear with a boat-tie.


I'll get me coat.