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Peanut Posted Apr 19, 2013
I think they are still possibly working on the grounds of it might not be just one 19 year old with nothing lose, although that is looking increasingly likely
Besides with the nothing to lose, you are going to workinon the scenerio that he is looking to take as many people as possible if cornered
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U14993989 Posted Apr 19, 2013
One would hope any good Bostonian worth his (her?) tea, would be checking out their first floor windows, with their trusted AK47 in their hands, in the event they spot this thug. But I suppose if he comes at them with a pressure cooker (explosives) then they would need to wait for the SWAT team with their rocket launchers and those new robo-dog things.
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Peanut Posted Apr 19, 2013
oof, ~jwf~ and Stone Aart, the timing of your commentaries at the moment,sort of lead balloons, if I may be so blunt
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U14993989 Posted Apr 19, 2013
I am easily lead so sometimes need to be curbed ... but I think we are all intelligent enough to work out the specific from the general from the ironic and loosely off topic.
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Peanut Posted Apr 19, 2013
Personally I have my weapons out of sight and would have my slow cooker put away, in case it was accidently mis-identified by anyone official knocking
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Peanut Posted Apr 19, 2013
Thank you ~jwf~
and Stone Aart, I got it, no real harm done I just was saying what I felt as I felt it
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U14993989 Posted Apr 19, 2013
Anyway I hope they catch this lunatic thug soon ... but I think the response and the media coverage has bordered on the excessive ... especially once it became known what they were dealing with.
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Peanut Posted Apr 19, 2013
I *would* have any weapons out of sight if I had any, which I don't and wouldn't
I do have a slow cooker though I am sure they are harmless
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U14993989 Posted Apr 19, 2013
ps Peanut don't let anyone pressurise you into not airing your voice etc (I agree some of my comments were bordering on the inappropriate after a quiet moment of reflection )
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Peanut Posted Apr 19, 2013
Do you think though that the response has been due to that they haven't really who or what they are dealing with.
It seems like they have been blind sided, and we have all gone cross eyed over the Chechnya link
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Pastey Posted Apr 19, 2013
At times when emotions are high, we can post without thinking. But I think in general we take a pause
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U14993989 Posted Apr 19, 2013
I think quite early on it was clear that this was a crude / amateur action by lunatic thugs with some crazed / distorted notion of avenging some perceived wrong. I think the stress on terrorism by the media and some political members of security was overblown. As someone mentioned above just because they were Chechyans - shouldn't mean they had anything to do with the "Chechyan cause", as you can get oddball nutters from anywhere.
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fords - number 1 all over heaven Posted Apr 19, 2013
I think people find it more comforting to label people like these terrorists. It sounds more secure than to admit you might be dealing with sociopaths or plain old nutjobs.
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Peanut Posted Apr 19, 2013
I think it can be reasonably expected that the media response would be overblown.
I think it perhaps worse that no-one has really known why, the wherefores so you get to dealing with all the potentialities
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U14993989 Posted Apr 19, 2013
In terms of those involved in putting a political spin on issues - labelling it as "terrorism" is convenient in terms of a continued justification of the expenditure on the "War on Terror(ism)", continued extension of the Patriot Act (with reduction in certain "human" rights), continued expenditure on "home" security. In terms of the media ... you have those coming in from the political angle and those coming in from the sensationalism angle.
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HonestIago Posted Apr 19, 2013
It is terrorism though. Bombs that cause mass amputations going off in the middle of a major public event cause terror, ergo terrorism.
What's missing is there's a range of motivations and actors involved in terrorism and we're not sure what's going on here. Not all terrorism is religiously motivated though some is, not all terrorists are trying to make a political point though some are.
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Dogster Posted Apr 19, 2013
Just to add, despite the impression in the news that the whole city is locked down, in my neighbourhood in central Boston (Beacon Hill, about 10m walk from the bombings), you couldn't tell that anything out of the ordinary is happening. People are on the streets, people are driving, the shops are open. The only differences are the constant helicopters flying overhead and the fact that the rubbish wasn't collected today.
While I understand that it's unavoidable for political reasons, I think it's fair to say that the reaction (locking down the whole city) is excessive.
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U14993989 Posted Apr 19, 2013
The definition of terrorism is quite flexible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_terrorism
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