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Expressions which you've always thought were wrong.
Rod Posted Aug 20, 2011
Encouragement by Brits in tropical Africa
"Don't worry, it won't always be dark at seven"
Expressions which you've always thought were wrong.
Effers;England. Posted Aug 20, 2011
I don't take it literally but philosophically.
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KB Posted Aug 20, 2011
The Mamas and the Papas can't take the blame entirely - well, maybe they can for using hackneyed cliches that have been around for hundreds of years:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/darkest-hour.html
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Effers;England. Posted Aug 20, 2011
'You're a better man than I am Gunga Din'...
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Xanatic Posted Aug 20, 2011
Well, I need an expression like that to be correct in order to be useful as a metaphor. "Every rose has it´s thorns" works, exactly because all roses have thorns. Or at least did untill recently. The saying wouldn´t work as well if it was "No plane without snakes", since they generally don´t have any.
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Rev Nick - dead man walking (mostly) Posted Aug 20, 2011
Without artsy philosophical pooh, the Gunga Din one is very straight forward in understanding.
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Effers;England. Posted Aug 20, 2011
>Well, I need an expression like that to be correct in order to be useful as a metaphor.<
Fair enough. I don't.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Aug 20, 2011
>> 'best' implies more than two feet; we should really use 'better' <<
Indeed! Well spotted. That may well be why the expression
has always bothered me.
And yet, because I would count neither of my feet as better
than t'other the whole notion still doesn't make sense.
~jwf~
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Effers;England. Posted Aug 20, 2011
It wouldn't be an issue for me. It would be my right foot. But then I played footie as a youngster..It is the one I have most co-ordination and control over.
Also as a child I did a lot of funny stuff using it to pick up things..a little bit like a hand.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Aug 20, 2011
Post 21:
>>...the way we can say "his"or"her" but have to use "their"
if we don't know the sex of the person. Why do we persist in
using such an ambiguous term? <<
It's not really ambiguous in any sense of being deliberately
unclear, but rather it allows for possibilities we might not
anticipate. It is the proper form when gender and number are
unknown. I use it regularly and have no difficulty with it.
It sure beats the clumsiness of he/she/it.
Or, god forbid the s/he device that really rankles my mind.
Neither of which allow for number.
~jwf~
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elderberry Posted Aug 21, 2011
>>Also as a child I did a lot of funny stuff using it to pick up things..a little bit like a hand.
I still do that now that I'm more senior, because it saves having to stoop down to the floor, thus saving my aching back.
>>>Feet are not like hands.
We may be right handed or left handed.
But feet aren't that differentiated
Mine are; I use my left foot as a 'hand', and in martial arts, being right-handed meant I stood with my left foot forward, which co-incidentally makes some sort of sense of the old saying.
>>>>It is the proper form when gender and number are
unknown. I use it regularly and have no difficulty with it.
I often find it unsatisfactory, when my prose involves both a group of people and (separately) a single person, gender unknown, for whom "their" has to be used. The use of "their" can become confusing because it sounds like we're talking about the group; so this has to be avoided by less elegant sentence structure.
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The Twiggster Posted Aug 21, 2011
Anyone who's ever been involved in hand to hand combat knows you've always got a better foot to put forward. It's not to do with the foot, per se, but with which hand you'll lead with when fighting.
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Robyn Hoode - Navigator. Now with added Studnet status! Posted Aug 21, 2011
"If the wind changes you'll stay like that"
I know it's not really mean to be serious, but I was always a bit nonplussed. Basically because our faces never stay the same. If I pulled a funny face and it became the norm, wouldn't I be able to just 'pull' a normal face until the wind changed again?
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Rev Nick - dead man walking (mostly) Posted Aug 21, 2011
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Robyn Hoode - Navigator. Now with added Studnet status! Posted Aug 21, 2011
one's 'normal' face is individual but still recognisable. I don't think there's too much confusion in this particular case
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Rev Nick - dead man walking (mostly) Posted Aug 21, 2011
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lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Aug 21, 2011
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Robyn Hoode - Navigator. Now with added Studnet status! Posted Aug 21, 2011
nick, I've got a nasty cricket hangover and I've got another long day of it ahead. I completely missed that in my grump.
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elderberry Posted Aug 21, 2011
I suppose that the other side of your face could be the lower side, so you'd have to do an upside-down smile into that region; which would indicate displeasure.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Aug 21, 2011
re: #15
"'I couldn't care less'
& the US version
'I could care less'
Another one of those that bugs me is the US dropping of the word 'to'
'he wrote to me'
'he wrote me'
example during election caucuses you'll here candidates say, "a lady from Ohio wrote me. She said ..."
It's most odd.
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Expressions which you've always thought were wrong.
- 41: Rod (Aug 20, 2011)
- 42: Effers;England. (Aug 20, 2011)
- 43: KB (Aug 20, 2011)
- 44: Effers;England. (Aug 20, 2011)
- 45: Xanatic (Aug 20, 2011)
- 46: Rev Nick - dead man walking (mostly) (Aug 20, 2011)
- 47: Effers;England. (Aug 20, 2011)
- 48: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Aug 20, 2011)
- 49: Effers;England. (Aug 20, 2011)
- 50: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Aug 20, 2011)
- 51: elderberry (Aug 21, 2011)
- 52: The Twiggster (Aug 21, 2011)
- 53: Robyn Hoode - Navigator. Now with added Studnet status! (Aug 21, 2011)
- 54: Rev Nick - dead man walking (mostly) (Aug 21, 2011)
- 55: Robyn Hoode - Navigator. Now with added Studnet status! (Aug 21, 2011)
- 56: Rev Nick - dead man walking (mostly) (Aug 21, 2011)
- 57: lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned (Aug 21, 2011)
- 58: Robyn Hoode - Navigator. Now with added Studnet status! (Aug 21, 2011)
- 59: elderberry (Aug 21, 2011)
- 60: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (Aug 21, 2011)
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