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Stanley's faith is stronger than science
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jun 30, 2009
... you're right, they actually say that paradise is a symbol for nomadic lifestyle and everything fits to the Euphrat and Tigris region
Stanley's faith is stronger than science
swl Posted Jun 30, 2009
You'd probably find it a lot easier if you adopted the approach of the majority of Christians Stanley and accept that the Bible was intended to be allegorical and not literally true in every sense. It's a morality tale which in no way takes away from your belief in a god.
Do you think there was actually a prodigal son? Was your Jesus recounting a true event or was he telling a story to illustrate a point?
Of course, it was the latter and that's what the Bible is all about. It's about conveying complicated concepts in a simple and easy to understand way. It's basically a rule book with stories to illustrate why the rules are "necessary". You're tying yourself in knots trying to prove that the stories are fact when that really isn't required.
It's a bit like trying to prove the science behind Star Trek is real in order to hold up Roddenbury's vision of the future as a viable possibility. But the science in Star Trek is just a plot device to take the story forward.
Original Sin and Adam & Eve are plot devices.
You've read the book but you just don't understand it do you?
Stanley's faith is stronger than science
Caractacus Posted Jun 30, 2009
'You've read the book but you just don't understand it do you?'
based on the pathological dishonesty he shows on every thread, I would certainly not believe him if he said he had read the Bible.
Stanley's faith is stronger than science
Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jun 30, 2009
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which one
2000 year old jesus
1500 year old mohamed
200 year old mormon
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Stanley's faith is stronger than science
Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jun 30, 2009
<<""""you try running a lot in the buff and you can do yourself a right mischief""""""""
Fair point but fails as a women with no upperbody would not have the same problem.>>
jealousy envy and anger
are you looking at my wifes tits???????
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U13884368 Posted Jun 30, 2009
"""""""""You're lying. For example, a very large volume of evidence and closely reasoned explication in direct answer to your question was offered to you in post 28. You dismissed that evidence as 'nonsense' without bothering to investigate it.""""""""
Lying is a sin, which i don't do.
Your evidence was not sufficient in answering a simple question but was just a generalisation of the theory you hold.
"""""""""Furthermore, in post 40 I pointed out to you the logical innevitability of evolution by means of natural selection given readily apparent facts of biology (heritable variation and differential reproductive success).""""""""""""
See above response.
"""""""Do you believe in talking donkeys?"""""""""
Im glad you asked. After being on here and chatting to some, I do now!
As for the Bible, I have read it but as i said earlier, it has been corrupted by man, therfore cannot be used as a source.
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jun 30, 2009
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and the k'ran hasn't been corupted?????
it was corupted by one with greater power than man
hence salman rushdis book the satanic verses, an explination of how satan corupted the word of god
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U13884368 Posted Jun 30, 2009
"""""""""it was corupted by one with greater power than man
hence salman rushdis book the satanic verses, an explination of how satan corupted the word of god""""""""
Even Rushdie has said his book is fiction.
The Quran cannot be corrupted.
What level of modesty do you hold taff?
Stanley's faith is stronger than science
U13884368 Posted Jun 30, 2009
"""""""so suicide bombers are justified by the k'ran??????"""""
Your seriously ignorant Taff
Have you heard of the Tamil Tigers? They hold the record for the most suicide bomings and they don't believe in the Quran.
I know you enjoy learning from me.
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jun 30, 2009
you are side stepping the issue
you said the k'ran cannot be corupted yet some have used it to promise young radicalized muslims that if they kill themselves they will be rewarded in paradise.
so are suicide bombings justified by the k'ran or has the word of god been corupted by man???????
as to the tamil tigers when we are discussing them we will debate the subjects
Stanley's faith is stronger than science
U13884368 Posted Jun 30, 2009
"""""""you are side stepping the issue""""""
No I was pointing out to you, suicide bombings don't need to influenced by the Quran.
"""""""""you said the k'ran cannot be corupted yet some have used it to promise young radicalized muslims that if they kill themselves they will be rewarded in paradise""""""""""
The Quran cannot be corrupted, as in its text cannot be changed.
Your confusing text corruption with text understanding. Anyone can read any text and understand it any way he/she chooses, its called human nature.
""""""""so are suicide bombings justified by the k'ran or has the word of god been corupted by man???????""""""""
No to both.
Don't worry Im here to help.
Stanley claims to be without flaw, a paragon of virtue
Caractacus Posted Jul 1, 2009
'Lying is a sin, which i don't do.'
Well, you do lie, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly on a number of threads, and when you claim that you don't do it, you are lying again, and, if your opinion is that lying is a sin and you claim that you don't sin, you are lying and sinning yet again.
And, of course, the claim that you, a mere falible human, do not sin is a reaching to the greatest height of pride.
Are you familiar with Khan's words to Kirk as he went into exile, Stanley? Somehow I don't expect, despite your vaunting self-image, that you will end up ruling when you find yourself in the Pit.
Stanley's faith is stronger than science
Caractacus Posted Jul 1, 2009
and
'Your evidence was not sufficient in answering a simple question but was just a generalisation of the theory you hold.'
it wasn't my evidence. Anhaga posted a link to Darwin's collection of evidence.
And we all know that it's inadequacy was only in that it was not the answer you require: 'god did it'.
'See above response'
see above response, i.e. it was indisputable logic rather than 'god did it'.
as for the donkey question, do you have any actual familiarity with scripture? or do you just have stock bits that have been fed to you by your handlers?
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jul 1, 2009
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no i was taking a contrary stance to encourage debate
when you have something worth teaching i will enjoy learning
untill then
2 more lies
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