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> It confuses piety with morality.<

Not like us oh so non pious athesists eh?

>>Tal, I think you were being a wee bit sneaky in that last post.<<

Moi?

I was merely emphasizing my philosophical objections...

Ok, let me add to the list:

18) It lacks epistemic rigor

from post 1...

"Please just answer the question without any justifications or discussion"

What is your objection to God and Religion?

Thank you.

az

At the risk of incurring Az's wrath, I'm taking spread bets on how far the Bonobo List will go.

I'm guessing 35-40.

Gif

PS: Some of them are monotheistic

Yeah, careful there Gif, I'm becoming well-known for smiting...

http://azahar.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/swl-smite.jpg

Though I do concur with Edward's number 15 - Christian Rock.

I'm not sure if there is actually a limit to this list of his - I'm afraid we may have created a list monster.


az

What is your objection to God and Religion?

the way it makes an argument spiral out of control well away from the original question

Where was I? Tal's 18) is his 1). Mine is:

18) The way it makes a landgrab for ordinary, secular concepts like 'morality' and 'goodness' and 'love' and pretends that these are attributes of god(s).

Oh, ok.

That would actually be my 3.

Or 5, depending on how we're doing the counting..

My first one, (or two): it is either false or meaningless

My second, (or third and fourth): it is restrictive and destructive

is this any god and religion or is the list about the christian one??

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I was going to stay away from this thread (I really was ) but I have to cry foul, here.

God doesn't hate 'fags'. A bunch of loony in-breds in the USA claim God hates fags, because, presumably, they do.

God doesn't play favourites, regardless of colour, gender, sexual orientation, height, weight, you name it.

Vicky

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there are all sorts of prohibitions in leviticus and you could twist it so that god hates evrybody who isn't a hebrew

19) It discourages people from taking responsibilty for deciding for themselves how we should run our society togther.

btw - when I say 'It', I'm generally talking about Religion. I can't really comment on god. Which brings me to...

20) It (god, for once) is a meaningless concept.

21) It (religion) falsely elevates talking about a meaningless concept as though it were meaningful to the status of an intellectual discourse.

For nobody in particular's sake! Use some editorial judgment, some benefit of the doubt, cut me a little slack, etc., and consider I really didn't mean 'ALL', and perhaps strictly speaking should have put 'SOME' in front of 'theists'.

Sorry!

I know some very nice theists, who appear to not hate anyone, ok?

Sheesh

>>20) It (god, for once) is a meaningless concept.<<

Hey! That's my 1, (or 2, depending...)

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i'm sure that is a great comfort to all those who have died for him or in his name

Well, wheree they are, they might even be laughing at us unbelievers... Who knows?

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You could I suppose, and some people probably have...

But to do that' you'd have to leave out the NT, and do some serious twisting!

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leviticus has the prohibition on eating blood, any who do are to be cast out,

so anybody not on a kosher or halal diet is acursed

that took so much twisting....not

looks like everybody is going to hell

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Only if you leave out the NT! The good news is, the dietary laws don't apply to Christians.. . although that being said, eating blood sounds so revolting... I can't stand rare steak, I'm not that fond of eating meat anyway.. on purely aeth-wossname grounds. (Ah, brainfade! I can't spell that word! )

Vicky

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the dietary laws don't apply to Christians? why not

jesus was a jew and the dietry laws aplied to him