h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

By the time the kid realises s/he's being manipulated, the guilt is well and truly set in place. As you grow up you either learn to accept it, or take solace in psychopathy.

RF

Im so confused...I thought we were supposed to be talking about paranoia...not parental instilled guilt

Surely the two are interlinked?

not for me

Fair enough. But GENERALLY speaking, do you think they may be interlinked?

well i fully agree that parental instilled guilt will highly likely result in paranoia...however it will not follow automatically that paranoia is the result of parental instilled guilt.

I can find no guilt, however am incrediably paranoid...

H'mm. Interesting. I used to feel guilt, but I amn't paranoid

(and before you mention it... amn't is another Irish idiom I use!)

Actaully, thinking about it - I know what *I* mean by guilt and paranoia, but those are merely my definitions.

What are yours?

oh noooo!!! sorry can't go into that. Am currently trying to detail paranoia and guilt on a DLA form...overload overload!

Guilt and paranoia are pretty useless.
Ok motivation in small doses if you need and want to change
As a lifestyle. it must surely bite.

I used to have a hard time babbling while refusing to accept a compliment.
A therapists told me; Just say thank-you.
If you feel awkward it ends the moment faster and appropriately.
Like any other it is kinder to be gracious rather than debate it's value. That view cured me quickly!


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As far as people talking behind your back....
I doubt h2g2 is much different than any part of life.
There are those that gossip and those that don't.
Most do not have the time or interest in doing so.
No good can come of concentrating on the negative and surely people have more suitable ways of spending their time.
Small minds gossip and it is senseless to worry about them. They are probably not very interesting if that is where their attentions lie.

And then there's the guilt you feel when you're happy.

It's alllll guilt!!! WE're surrounded by it and half the time it's encouraged! Oh and what about blame culture? My family is almost famous for it!

Er... Sphinks, why are you feeling guilty for experiencing a transitory emotion?

And as for the "blame" culture.... thats just sheer manipulation because the other party can't hack it/or cope with what someone else feels.

(been there, had it done, got the tee shirt, etc)

I came to the conclusion I could "feel" any emotion because thats my entitlement as a hooman being. It's what I *did* with the emotion that could possibily lead to consequences, which I would then have to deal with - which is fine by me, too.

As for blame... that was a bit tougher; in the end I figured that you can't please all of the people all of the time and just let them get on with it.

Oh yeah, before I forget, your DLA form Kat - have you got a local voluntary group called D.I.A.L. your way? They're excellent in helping you fill in those awful Disability forms, and as you've said; if you're feeling a bit fragile mentally, how in hell can you be expected to understand the thing?

I'm alright. When I'm happy I enjoy it.

However, I've already decided that when I have kids I will not try to control them with guilt.

Glad to hear it!

And I, too decided not to control my two by guilt... and they've turned out amazingly together individuals. Infact, I'd like em a lot even if they WEREN'T my sons!

well perhaps the paranoia boils down to childhood when your parents seemed to know what you were up to even when you were in a different room, in a separate part of the house? Or even somewhere else entirely!

As for guilt, nowt wrong with that, one of the worlds most successful religions is based on it!

Only one?!

RF

lets see, the calvinists died out, or all went to hell, however you choose to see it. The jews are happy i suppose,

The unitarians don't know what guilt is

That leaves...THE CHRISTIANS!!

No especially the christians i suppose as the catholics...

Ah but the Jews blame everyone else for what's happened to them over the years and so surf on a wave of guilt

>> The jews are happy i suppose, <<

You sure about that? I'd've said that they were up there with the best guilt-mongers!

RF

You reckon?

Nah.. for me it has got to be the "Waily waily waily Oh-Lord_I-am-not-worthy" Christians that get my vote for pure guilt mongering