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Hi Nog,

Before we move on to the next line of evidence you have for a reduced chronology, I'd like to present you with some evidence for the 'standard' chronology, and see what your response is.

If I've understood your revised timeline correctly, you have basically decided that 1200 - 700 BC (by 'standard chronology' - hereafter 'sc') doesn't exist, it's an illusion caused by us separating Dynasties that were simultaneous. That corresponds to the end of the New Kingdom and the Third Intermediate period. These must, therefore, overlap with something earlier or later in Egyptian history, i.e. the Late or Second Intermediate periods. And I think it's the Second Intermediate you've gone for.

So why is it that the New Kingdom has a distinctly different style of pottery to the Second Intermediate? Malqata ware, for instance, is quite distinctive of the 18th Dynasty - 20th Dynasties, and is frequently found in Memphis. It is distinctly different from the Second Intermediate pottery found at Memphis, which is similar in style to the Middle Period.

Refs:
http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/pottery/2inter.html
http://www.swan.ac.uk/egypt/infosheet/Amarna%20Pottery.htm (mostly talking about Amarna, but deals with Memphis further down)

So we have clear continuity. In a single location, pottery moves through several different styles, associated with different Dynasties that need to be contemporary according to your 'revised chronology' ('rc'). Yes, I realise it's not as flashy as talking about Biblical Pharaohs, and it's harder to summarise in a few words (except with sweeping statements). Instead, it relies on painstaking analysis of literally thousands of sherds of pottery from dozens of sites. In other words, it's what 'real' archaeologists spend careers doing, and revisionists skip over. It's what you don't tend to find on the Internet because - well, frankly it's dull. But it's also the foundation of relative dating in archaeology.

Gif

Giff???

as this is the delusion thread...............

are you keeping up with julzes on the almighty god thread????

i think he should be over here because he has got some real delusions!!!!!!

course 375.1 mark 6, warp 5, .....Engage!

I'm still here. Name my delusions. Be specific with the numbers.

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well thers a biggy

the words 'coincidence is evidence' is a bit of a give away!!!!

How so? No probability theory? What a shame!

Hi gif.

I'll have a look at those links as soon as I get a minute.

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Actually, no. Although reduced in date, the 2nd intermediate and the 18th dynasty maintain their places in the sequence. The affected dynasties are the 19th, which is identified as the same as the 26th; the 20th, which is the same as the 28th, 29th, and 30th; the 21st, which is parallel to the 20th; and the 22nd, which is shortened by 120 years, but not moved.

Off for a read.

Noggin

OK, I'll need to dig out some different locations and pottery styles, but the basic form of the argument should be sound (he says, without checking ).

Again, I'll plead time pressure to come back to this later...

Gif

I've just responded to Julzes over on the other thread (before I saw this here). Although I don't buy his God-is-aliens-and-maths-proves-it theory, he puts me in mind of a closely similar philosophical connundrum...

Gif

Science has put forward good arguments that there need not be a God, but also good arguments that there should be many civilizations far in advance of our own if life evolves and advances elsewhere in ways similar to how this thread considers it to. My maths only prove that there is some sort of God for Earth. It's the science that I refer to outside of my math--plus the fact that it's MY disposition (as a particularly selected/created person, discovered after this disposition had established itself)--that makes the inference on what the nature of this God is reasonable. So, anyway, I only claim that maths proves there is a God (or something many would regard tantamount to God, despite traditional conceptions), not that it proves it's aliens. I do want to separate out my theory from others, so I think I'll call it Dependent Evolution, the idea being that advanced life can influence the evolutionary process (We can do that ourselves, and have for quite a long time, and long enough scientifically to understand what we've been doing for far longer by trial-and-error). Don't lump me in with any group of people. The ID people are just hacks.

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what about the conspiracy theorists that say aliens have been meddling with earthlings for a long time????

been analy probed lately????

Not in a few years. Was that an offer?

There is a similarity with what I am saying and the group you consider, as with the ID people; but the similarity ends rather quickly with both cases if you look at exactly what I'm saying and will elaborate upon more fully later on.

not my type

i'm not

so how do these invisible god-aliens interact with the real world to affect things???, being hidden observers is easy enough

I'm not really into it either, and that guy never did come up with my bail. Ripped off, I was.

<< and that guy never did come up with my bail. Ripped off, I was. >>

yoda in jail mix-up

We have the science to speculate on that. You could even time earthquakes with invisible technology, within limits. Imagine that! My hypothesis is that the chemical senses are an avenue for mind-manipulation, as far as human intentions and actions are concerned. It helps explain my birthday coincidence and other things I have more abstruse evidence for their having been managed.

are there any other mathamaticians who share your birthday, who are doing parallel work???

I'm the only one into it; so if you're wondering, I seem protected from my own suicide attempts and other things--at least up to when this work is complete (I wonder sometimes if I won't be worth more dead than alive later on because people read dead people's stuff more readily and seriously).

i'm not comfortable with this anymore, not when the asspect of suicide is involved, i have to deal with those sort of things here at work and i am accountable legally here(RL) while on hootoo the wrong word could be dangerous