A Conversation for Ask h2g2

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Post 3761

AgProv2

"Academic books that don't include indexes. Is it just a ploy to make me read the whole thing? If so, it isn't going to work."

Fortunately it appears to have died out a bit, but if you ever have to go to older text books, there's the sort of academic book that assumes the reader has had the right sort of education and can read Latin and Greek. In an otherwise comprehensible discourse, an old-time scholar might illustrate a point by quoting the Classics, but he'll do it in Latin, assume you understand, and not provide a translation, even as a footnote. Or he'll lapse into Greek - written in classical Greek - with neither translation nor transliteration into Roman characters.

Used to drive me nuts... as I say, academic texts written after about 1970 seemed to drop this affectation, but in some disciplines you are forced to go to old works, as these are all that were available, or were still cited as authorities. (Philology as a sub-discipline of linguistics: Professor J.R.R. Tolkein was still the academic authority for a long time after he retired from Oxbridge, for instance)


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Post 3762

Runescribe

A (modern) collection of essays I read recently which didn't have translations for the Greek unless the translation was provided in the original publication of the essay.
Really. Is it so difficult to put a footnote with the translation and initial it to show it was added?


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Post 3763

You can call me TC

Those silly pictures and icons that are now used in Explorers and Directories. I can read, dammit - I like a nice alphabetical list, not a hotchpotch of weird pictures that have no relation to what they are supposed to illustrate. I feel they've sent me back to kindergarten and so I can recognise my coat peg I get the pussy cat or the smiley - bluebutterfly or the steam engine picture instead of my name written out.

It's even worse when you can't adjust the settings to get it to show the alphabetical (or chronological) list.

smiley - grr


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Post 3764

Sho - employed again!

People round here who write hugely expensive mountain-type bikes with about 30 gears - riding them in totally the wrong gear so their legs are spinning round nineteen to the dozen.

We live near Holland - it's flat for miles and miles and miles and miles

Learn to use your bikes, you show offs!


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Post 3765

eloisa

Cyclists in general seem an odd buch to me.


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Post 3766

Sho - employed again!

with it so flat here we often cycle around when it's not raining. It's quite possible to get around the whole area on an ancient bike with 0 gears (I realise that I'm fairly fit, but i'm not superfit, and i manage it)


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Post 3767

Elentari

"Fortunately it appears to have died out a bit, but if you ever have to go to older text books, there's the sort of academic book that assumes the reader has had the right sort of education and can read Latin and Greek. In an otherwise comprehensible discourse, an old-time scholar might illustrate a point by quoting the Classics, but he'll do it in Latin, assume you understand, and not provide a translation, even as a footnote. Or he'll lapse into Greek - written in classical Greek - with neither translation nor transliteration into Roman characters.

Used to drive me nuts... as I say, academic texts written after about 1970 seemed to drop this affectation, but in some disciplines you are forced to go to old works, as these are all that were available, or were still cited as authorities. (Philology as a sub-discipline of linguistics: Professor J.R.R. Tolkein was still the academic authority for a long time after he retired from Oxbridge, for instance)"

AgProv, I totally agree. I believe I may have actually mentioned it in this very thread some time ago. Drives me mental. I can almost understand it when it's Latin or Greek - but medieval French? Who really understood that, even 80 years ago?


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Post 3768

toybox

Authors which quote Greek using transliteration. Use the proper letters! Include transliteration in a footnote if you must (and yes, I agree that omitting the translation is also very annoying).


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Post 3769

eloisa

On a less academic note (although I agree, I had a book about the history of vampires written in the 30's, still don't know what parts of that were about) getting a really itchy nose just after you've put your makeup on!


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Post 3770

You can call me TC

Men and the contents of their noses and sinuses - the audibility of same - just generally smiley - yuk especially at breakfast time, where it seems they find it compulsory to indulge in the habit of smiley - snorking

smiley - ill


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Post 3771

eloisa

The general need that some guys have to share each and every one of their bodily functions with all around! I work with a guy who farts and belches constantly, I think he thinks it makes him more of a man!!


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Post 3772

AgProv2

Again on gender differences at breakfast: I'm male. I find it hard to remember how to get the top off the toothpaste, let alone have a coherent conversation over the breakfast table. In fact, breakfast in near-silence is heaven.

She, on the other hand, can hit the floor talking from the moment the alarm clock goes off. Then she insists I should be able to talk back, let alone listen. (grunts his vague acquiescence to whatever it was that she's wittering on about THIS time)

i think there is a fundamental gender-difference here.


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Post 3773

eloisa

Nah, I'm like the living dead of a morning. Not gender related, she must just be one of those irritatingly chirpy people!


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Post 3774

Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque

Petty hate - People who ask you what your day at work was like
On a good day it was mind-numbingly tedious, i don't want to talk about, same as the last thousand or so times I was asked
As for a bad day smiley - grr


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Post 3775

Runescribe

Having to wait three months before anyone will teach me more chemistry.


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Post 3776

eloisa

The fact that windows media player has nice swirly graphics and I want to use it but it's alwys cutting out when listening to radio online, real player is both dull and irritating but the music id usually uninterupted.
smiley - steam


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Post 3777

DaveBlackeye

Windows in general smiley - steam

No, don't get me started smiley - run



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Post 3778

eloisa

Finding out just after I'd bought a brand new pooter, all windowed up, that the compatability issues I'd always been warned about with macs were now a thing of the past andd I needn't even have bought a pc!


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Post 3779

DaveBlackeye

On that subject, iTunes. smiley - grr

Needed to learn some songs for the band, so downloaded them from iTunes recently - legit, mind, paid for them and everything. Then discovered everything was in MP4 format and it doesn't let you convert them to anything else.

Several new coasters later I realise that none of my CD players recognise MP4! I now have several songs I paid good money for that I can't play anywhere except on the bloody computer smiley - steam


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Post 3780

Yael Smith

Re: morning talk.
Don't anyone talk to me until I had at least 30 minutes of wakefulness in the morning. If you do, I'll grunt at you and lose my patience instantly.
You've been warned.


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