h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Yes! You can do both, it tastes nicer than meat, and its low in saturated fat!

I shall keep an eye out for it next time I'm at the shops! Thanks for the tip.

You're welcome

Just as an FYI, Quorn's fine for lacto-ovo-veggies, but if you're vegan, it's a no-no

Carrot soup for EVERY meal??? Egad, I'm trying to imagine a boring diet - ew! If you're interested in going veggie but are afraid of having a restricted diet, go spend some time looking at cookbooks. Making a change in your life as fundamental as your diet is A Big Deal, and looking at a lot of cookbooks and seeing that it's not as scary or difficult as you thought is a big help.

Mind you, spicy carrot soup with crusty homemade bread does sound rather good...

This may sound weird, but I became veggie and that was that. It was so easy, and I thought it would be impossible with all the books I saw giving pages and pages of advice and saying do it one step at a time and so on.

What animal products are in Quorn?

Quorn contains eggs

And milk protein

OK all you veggies out there. how many of you still ware wool and leather?
British farmers get 3 pence a kilo for fleece and you can get about two and a half kilos off a sheep.

Alji the Magus

I haven't bought any leather products since becoming a veggie but I don't see the point in not continuing to use the ones I already own.
As for wool, I still buy it.

Atari

I wear no wool, no leather, and no silk.

Apart from my annual new pair of shoes (I don't really care about fashion, and own just one pair of shoes at a time) I don't buy leather goods. I do buy leather from charity shops, such as my leather jacket which I got at the bargain price of £1, as the money goes to a good, non-killing cause

I'm not too bothered about wool as the sheep don't need it anyway.

I can't find any *smart* shoes that don't contain leather

Well, if I eat the meat of cows, not using leather would be wasteful. But it only really features in footwear, for me.
Fur, definately not. I would not even wear vintage fur, it would feel far too disquieting.

There are alternatives to intensive farming, though. I seek these out wherever possible. Hence if you stopped all intensive farming the animals would still be useful. I really don't think it's a good idea to dump a load of species by persuading everyone to cease being omnivorous. Would you keep some cows for milk and chickens for eggs? (I dislike anything but free-range, btw. A family I know- vegetarians- keeps chickens and they lay the best eggs.)

If I sound patronising, sorry, it was not intentional- or even noticed... however, a comparison is a very different thing than a statement. A comparison has to involve drawing parallels or stating similarities between two or more things. It is a rose, it is like a rose, etc. Therefore there was *no* comparison.
If someone had suggested that Taureans were better people, then I might bring up a few examples of those who weren't to throw them off. I didn't make the Hitler statement however and I really cannot understand the fuss- except in the context of having it thrown at you by all and sundry in the past, however Alji did not do that. From encounters with him in other threads, he has his head screwed on. There was already a 'shouldn't/should' flavour creeping into the conversation; as I say, I have only heard that statement (which both WebWitch and I refuted by saying it was for medical rather than ethical reasons, so meaningless from either position) in response to the idea that meat makes you aggressive. No offence was meant.
It is patronising to be told I 'shouldn't' be eating meat; have people make disgusted faces and say 'how can you eat that'; to have tirades against omnivorousness published in the press on a regular basis; that I am being exceptionally, personally cruel.
It is equally patronising to be told you 'must' eat meat; that you will certainly fall ill if you are vegetarian; that you are somehow inferior.
It is outrageously rude to expect someone to cook meat for you if they themselves do not eat it. I would not do that anymore than I would accept an invitation to dinner then hand over a menu. I love vegetarian food, eat it often and also prefer it to a lot of meat products- burgers, for instance; no gristle. I have had to cook vegetarian food on a regular basis also so I am not clueless.
(aren't meat-substitutes sometimes deceptively high in fat? (least compared to extra-lean mince) I only really like Sos-Mix.)
I really do not care what your personal choice on this is, I would respect that if I ever went to dinner with you.

There is no *should* and *shouldn't* - eat what you want to, it's your own choice!! No one has to subscribe to a set way of life - you are bleedin' well free to make your own choices about what you eat and how you live, thus if you feel like eating meat, eat meat! Don't label yourself as anything!!




A theory (which I think is fairly accurate) about what foods and food types are best-suited for you depending on your bloody type:

O is the oldest type of blood - hunter gatherers, who also experience more problems with stomach acid and can't tolerate dairy foods.
A - tolerate vegetarian foods but still need protein, just not from meat.

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Regular/butlin49.htm
http://biomedx.com/bloodtype/

>'about what foods and food types are best-suited for you depending on your bloody type:'

rant over?


I don't know my blood type...

woops! That'll teach me to preview!!

I didn't know my blood type until a little while ago, but by reading the info on the different blood types I picked what I thought I was by what I ate and what made me feel good, and I was right!

What it comes down to is doing what makes *you* feel good - eating meat just doesn't make me feel good, but for the sake of politeness if I go somewhere and I'm served meat I make an effort to eat it. I am slowly getting over this though, and eating meat has started to make me feel ill.

You shouldn't have to do that, if perceived politeness outweighs your personal comfort. If anyone takes offence it'll be their problem. If you were eating here I wouldn't mind, and would try to note it for future reference...

Thinking about the upsurge in Western vegetarianism, I was thinking about Hollywood!
Never has a generation had the animal so humanised in picture form.
I 'blame' Walt Disney for turning our meal into Bambi.
Who can not watch a film like Babe without looking twice at a sausage and thinking?
Just a thought

Theory summed up: Hollywood = Veggies