h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Aww, shucks! Now people might think that I'm sensitive or something.

Truthfully I just try to make her happy, and vice versa. It's actually fun trying to find new things to surprise each other with, it has become a bit of a game.

So simple, isn't it?

Yep! The more you do it the easier it gets.

But I do remind y'all that it dosn't work on every girl. One girl I dated hated all those "stupid things" that I did for her. Obviously this relationship did not work.

It could definately work on me. I felt happy and moved even when he wrote on the kitchen table with the pencil that he'll come home at 5 pm (which was the usual time for coming home). He was thinking about me when he left!

Nothing worse than a man bringing you or a when he's upset you/feels guilty. Hurts much more, IMHO.

Nothing better than receiving a surprise (one of thought, more than monetary value) when you least expect it. (ie not on a special occasion)

Pegasus, how do you know he feels guilty? How can you distinguish it from honest love? Or do you rule that out?

*encourages Wonko back down from his high horse*

I didn't say when I think/know he feels guilty. When HE does feel guilty... and it does happen, cos I've been on the receiving end of it. It's not nice, and it doesn't work (for me, anyway).

Honest love is different, which I think the second part of my post may have touched on. Personally, I'm not much one for receiving gifts anyway. And I'd sooner have a garden full of flowers, than a load of dying ones.

(Low and humbly): Why do men feel guilty?

I would imagine for the same reasons women do... ie, when they know they've done something wrong.

Maybe you are a rare person with a clear conscience Wonko, but not everyone is.

Thanks for mentioning the possiblity! Well, sometimes I think I have, sometimes I don't.

I think "feeling guilty" should be completely abandomed. Love should be forgiving and gracious.

Anyway, are you having a clear conscience, Peagasus?

'Feeling guilty' is what happens when people do something they know they shouldn't. Or at least it does if they have any kind of conscience at all.

It would be nice to abandon guilt, but in our soceity, I don't see this happening any time soon, do you?

As for my own conscience, I wrestle with it an awful lot. So is your own conscience clear then Wonko?

But who says what you should do or shouldn't? Was it am act of free will for the partners to agree to some rules, or are they are just assumed? Well, my rules are quite different.

I had some 10 years of fight to abandon *my* guilty feelings. Well, most of them. Most of the time now I am able to stick to our rules.

I think that my conscience is clear, I see what I am doing, why I am doing it and if I make plans for the future, I stick to them. People think I am dependable. One think is that I included my instincts (or, to name it: my sex addiction ) into my self, so I can handle it in a social way.

So is it because females drive you crazy that you are no longer Wonko the Sane?

I think very often it happens that if a guy buys a women flowers she will think he has a bad conscience, even if it was just meant as a loving gesture. So guys refrain from it because it will get them into trouble.

Yes you are right! But I hope that I'm still sane, or at least will be able to regain my sanity.

Well, Zorpheus, I would agree with the girlfriend you had, what a lovely thoughtful thing to do! The best thing a boyfriend ever gave me, was a 99c record, as 45 rpm (not so long ago, I promise!) that he bought me, he had scoured 2nd hand record shops to find it for me (it was an old song). UIt was the thoughtfulness I liked!

Good thing he did. And did you do something similar to him?

No, Wonko, sadly I did not, all I did was show my appreciation but I did do other things for him on other occasions. That was True Love, and I haven't had such a good relationship since. Males drive me crazy, because I do not understand them!

I am a very good understandable male. Well, in my opinion.

Why did you split?

Well,Wonko, I am sure you are understandable, but this one wasn't. He found himself another woman, to cut a long story as short as possible, but then he sort-of hung around unable to decide for an infuriatingly long time! I have three sons and two ex-husbands, to not understand.

It makes me happy to see you think I'm understandable.

So sorry for your splits! But it will be good in the end.