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Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
intelligent moose (the one true H2G2 Moose) Posted Aug 9, 2004
OK, maybe that could've been clearer... 
Or maybe I'm right.... are you sure your body isn't in a clinic somewhere having memories squirted into your temporal lobes?
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 9, 2004
Went to see I Robot on saturday and to be honest I thought it was pretty damn good. THough probably in the "Not Dumb" category rather than actually intelligent.
It would be good If they made a filme based on the "Foundation Books" I think.
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Orcus Posted Aug 9, 2004
I agree with your assessment of I, Robot but I hav to say basing a film on Foundation which covers several thousand years of history might be kind of hard. 
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 9, 2004
yeah I suppose 
....
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Orcus Posted Aug 9, 2004
Trouble with Foundation is that it is all based on the behaviour of vast crowds of humans behaving in a predictable manner (phsychohistory).
In that, the actions of an individual have little effect (barring the Mule - a freak of nature) in the overall scheme of things. This would not likely give an inspirational plot line to a film. Having said that however, there's nothing to stop them bastardising it.
Oh no!
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Yakusmaximus Posted Aug 9, 2004
Couldn't think of all five and i was tempted to scroll down straight away to get some inspiration. Resisted though and fianlly came up with my five
1. Planet of the Apes
2. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
4. The Matrix
5. Blade Runner
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 9, 2004
I was thinking in terms of the epic scale of the galaxy... thinking about it I can see it would not make a good film. However perhaps a cracking Civilisation esque game.... hmmm...
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
dave english Posted Aug 9, 2004
I can think of 5 I'd like to see made,only thing is the ones they make have to appeal to a wide audience so taking that into account....
ringworld Larry Niven
enders game Orson scott card
Peter hamiltons Nightsdawn
Altered Carbon Richard Morgan
a deepness in the sky Vernor vinge
I think the first 4 would appeal to a wide audience and the last one is for me!
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 9, 2004
Ring World.... yeah that could be good, but I wonder if a lot of the subtlety would be lost...
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Aug 9, 2004
>> Dark City is visually inteesting but that fails to cover up the wilful 'weirdness' of it..<<
One man's wilful weirdness is another man's intellectual delight. 
~jwf~
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Aug 9, 2004
I see we now have a new category of 'not dumb'. 
How about we have five categories.
Intelligent
Not Dumb
Dumb
Really Dumb
Dumbest
At the bottom leadest the 'dumbest' list would be the bastardised (almost unrecognisable) film version (1977) of Roger Zelazny's wonderfully intelligent and prophetic novella 'Damnation Alley' (1969). Has there ever been a worse filmic mess made of a great story?
This site dedicated to RZ mentions that the film is not as good as Kevin Costner's "The Postman"; which isn't saying much.
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/zelazny.htm
peace
~jwf~
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Aug 10, 2004
>One man's wilful weirdness is another man's intellectual delight.<
No doubt. I'd rather have 'City of Lost Children' in the 'Not Dumb (but fattally flawed)' category, though.
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Crescent Posted Aug 10, 2004
Avalon - the one by the Ghost in the Shell gadgee, that almost noone got to see and was slated by the critics. However, it was a true mindf*ck, never held the viewers hand and the end was an eye-opener and no mistake. Just my £0.02, until later....
BCNU - Crescent
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 10, 2004
Hmmm I once saw the start of "City of the Lost children" having take a lot of magic mushrooms and it damaged me.
I have never been able to watch the film as a result of this
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Xanatic Posted Aug 10, 2004
They say if you take magic mushrooms and watch a David Lynch movie, they cancel each other out and things become normal 
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Ged42 Posted Aug 10, 2004
City of Lost Children is f**ked up enough as it is, adding drugs is seriously bad idea. 
Though personally i really enjoy the film, it's design work is superb.
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 10, 2004
Well when I was a tearaway at uni one of the forfeits in a drinking game we played was taking LSD and watching "Eraserhead".
Luckily no one actually did it.
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Jim Lynn Posted Aug 10, 2004
I'd agree with lots of choices here, and since I can't nominate my favourite (since Apollo 13 isn't science fiction) here are a couple of suggestions:
The Truman Show
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
It seems weird nominating two Jim Carrey movies in this category, but I believe they fit.
Also, how about Close Encounters? I'd say it was fairly intelligent.
And Back to the Future - entertaining as hell, but also a superb time travel movie, which is a difficult genre to get right.
And John Carpenter's The Thing.
Name 5 intellegent SF films you have seen
Still Incognitas, Still Chairthingy, Still lurking, Still invisible, unnoticeable, missable, unseen, just haunting h2g2 Posted Aug 10, 2004
OK name an intellegent movie(this is for the youngsters among us) of the last two years.
Also do you think the Golden age SF of the 50's and 60's was better than todays SF? I'm talking about the written word here.
I notice that you haven't mentioned many of the SF films of that era either.
Incog.
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- 71: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Aug 9, 2004)
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- 73: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Aug 10, 2004)
- 74: Crescent (Aug 10, 2004)
- 75: Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master (Aug 10, 2004)
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