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no problem, just wanted u too know

totty

Intern
Re: post 1109

insomic??

"ok here we have your double standards again insomic vampire
if awol is back onsite the fact is he is no longer welcome here due to his missbehaving people make a desisition about what path to take in a sertain situation you breake the law you can break it again or you can go stright while on pre moderation he desided he was going to continue been rude to people useing bad language and missbehave the other way was to behave obviously he didnt want to thats why he is no longer welcome"

my double standards? not sure i follow where your going in your post?, i mean hes broken some rules but whats that got to do with me?
unless you think i shouldnt talk to him if he posts to me? will i get put on pre mod for that? is it in breach of the rules? if it is then i believe you yourself, and a number of other aces along with researchers have also spoken to him too

"you tell me about going into your thread and spying on you then joining in on the conversation i posted twice then awol started to try and winde me up thats why i book marked only after that"

it doesnt take a genius to figure out what im saying here, you knew he was posting on site because he was in this thread and doesnt make a secret of who he is unlike other people who create new names causing trouble in 1 and being nice in another, so why the need to go into my conversation? dont know why im asking though its pretty obvious! awol tried to wind you up? and you posted a bookmark after that? well i dont think thats quite true though anyway is it? how could awol wind you up if he didnt know you was in the conversation? lol think about what your saying..why post in in there at all?

"but you knew when i sent a message to some one regarding awol that leeds me to belive you have subscribed to my messages or you was lurking in and around my space to see what to some one in a message"

yes in this you are correct, being aware of some of the h2g2 police members i had a hunch and went to confirm not that i subscribed or posted in any of your threads though, i went to confirm a suspicion and when i saw what i suspected was there i left

"you then took it upon yourself to tell awol 'intern has grassed you up'"

yeah well you did didnt you? what? dont you like my choice of words or something? i was only saying it like it was/is..its the truth, whats the problem?

"you then said that 'something smells fishy about aces its corruption' no you have no proof of that as yet but yet you can feel free to throw slanderous untruth about the aces group"

lmfao intern do you not realise when you "MISQUOTE" somebody what that means? read this paragraph again please so as you can see whats so funny about your statement and when you quote me right ill respond by replying with pleasure to what i actually did say!

"please i have better things to do with my time than to stalk any one let alone you"

oh yeah? could of fooled me

"but there you go again accusing me of something i havent done"

but intern did you not say in previous posts that you admit to following my conversations looking for a banned researcher?..this leads me to believe you dont have anything better to do with your time, just an observation

"in the interest of fair play in your next message to me list on any occation i have posted onsite/E-mailed you to the exctent thatthat you can turn around and call some one a stalker"

the phrase as you are aware was in reference to the fact you was in that thread and have openly admitted to following me around others, i dont have to list occasions, you have already stated this as fact

"does this mean becouse you broken house the rules so many time's you should be forced into reading them again"...."yes or no (please state your reason for the answer)"

forced? lol i dont think reading the house rules is an issue here, but understanding them would help and interpreting them in the way they was intended to be interpreted would help

"aces are meant to set a good ex

intern...
cont...

for some reason it cut off, must have something to do with the wonder of digibox

just to finish up i agreed with your last statement about aces, and the fact they should set a good examples etc but i fail to see why you felt the need to tell us what you get up to day to day offline, it bears no relevance to onsite activies, (so ive been told despite when things by aces are denied/admitted in the same post in this thread therefore not only lying but contradicting themselves), i have no interest whatsoever about your personal hygene or anything else, who cares? its none of my business but 'in the interest of fair play' ill give you the benefit of the doubt, im sure you felt in some way it was relevant!

Localised Girl
Re: pos post 1118

just a point, all the aces are aware of what happens in the aces forum, they see all the reading material via email, true some may have missed/overlooked comments posted by other aces but if they read all the mail they will know, as i do, exactly who said what about who, im not interested in 'who' said what about me, thats immaterial, but saying what was said about me, no names of course not in this thread/onsite, and by whom just goes to prove what i have said is true.....incidentally still no word from h2g2, i mailed them 2 months ago now i think, funny that!

To answer some points half-made about the ACEs (and other) Yahoo groups:

I think the only legitimate reason for keeping stuff on the groups secret is when it involves dangerous bugs to be fixed or new features which might not emerge or possibly to query specific points of the code of conduct. When used to point out "trouble" it is immediately open to mob behaviour abuse as seen repeatedly on site. When used to accuse it becomes defamation because the forum is not really private. It is actually worse than the more open kind of defamation because the victim is denied the right of reply or in theory even the knowledge that the minds of the people in the group are being deliberately poisoned against them. So the lies get perpetuated unchallenged by all members of the group.

Storing stuff about people on Yahoo in messages also probably violates the data protection act - since they should be allowed to see any information held about them and have the right to correct misinformation. It sounds like AWOL probably has the right to see much of the ACEs group if everyone there has been assuming this is all about him and exchanging data about his behaviour or accounts.

was just wondering, out of sheer curiousity, how long this thread was going to go on for???

people seem to be going round and round in circles and getting no-where, so what may i ask is the point!!!???

SEF,

i think whenever an issue is brought up, awol makes a good scapegoat to draw the conversation away from where people are going
'things' were suggested in there with regard to awol though, particularly in and around the time of the ban/dont ban awol thread..obviously i cant elaborate any further on that, it would only get yikesed

::bookmark::

Totty, it has been as you said a round aboutthread, but slowly things are working out...

Mind you the '10,000 post of nonsence' thread is looking like a target we can beat.


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Further SEF said - I do agree with, the prospect of being pre-judged by a bunch of *wildcard ACEs* to me is adhorrent.

It's one thing to warn of the prospect of 'danger', quite another to scandalise (defame) people without offering recourse.

Then again, to read the yahoo ACE group one only need become an ACE, and using the logic of: "Could not do a worse job than _insert name(s) here_" hmm...

I hope that all those researchers that feel they can do a great job as an ace, will be applying the next time they recruit some.

I think that SEF may back me up when I say that looking at the newbie list can make your heart sink sometimes. I have spent many hours [literally] each week welcoming newbies.

So if anyone is up for it, then keep an eye on the frontpage and [insert name(s) here] let's see how well you get on!

sorry - there should have been a at the end of that!

BN.

insomic vapire

in the interest of fairness if the Aces have to re read the rules than any one breaking the house rules should have to do the same or am i asuming that just becouse we are aces that this rule only applys to us

stalking...

Ahh right i admited going to your "page" not following you about all over the site how do we know where any one will be its not like L.D where its says billy199 is in the pub
room or any thing like that...
And if im after awol then how am i stalking you??or im i stalking awol now further more there is nothing in the house rules against any one going to another researchers space

you still havent explaind why you feel the need to subscribe to my messages so you can tell awol the moment i know who he is so he can make up another name???

point of interest....

did any one els have trouble geting into this thread???

Locolised girl.....

It dosent matter if vampire looks at your threads....

Wrong how many times has i vampire said she dosent want aces looking at her thread..so your saying again its a case of a double standard we should
keep off vaps thread and not look at her messages but it is acceptable for
vamp to come into ours and look through our threads lurking is acceptable part of h2g2

Some time ago isomic vampire came into one of my conversations and started slagging me down this conversation had nothing to do with her the thread had nothing to do with
her she did it any way i go into a conversation and its stalking now so whats good for insomic vimpire no one els has the right to do

you cant deny spying (or something was said)

sorry if you cant be botherd to look at the message or at the very least get fact`s correct i am affraid i wont awnser it

dressed up....

humm maybe i was making a point about
something like im responsable all the time not just when i come on h2g2 and the other points was the same im not all the above in h2g2 im like it all the time in real life as well

ace forum....

Im not saying every one is as honest
as the day is long but i know them and would say they wouldnt do half the things they have been accused of

it is a fact if you read the message in insomic vampire`s page that awol has got a account where is is a ace he said so him self so it is him that is geting the infomation he is geting if this is true

forums can be leeked becouse we get them as a e-mail so say joe who was a ace got a forum and sent it to you that is leeking infomation any one who is in the group cant pass infomation e-mails to any one who is not in the group
or as well joe couldnt e-mail you and
say so-so has been said in there this was said that is leeking infomation as well

I wasnt there i wasnt on the other end of the line so all i can go on is
whatever vap/angel say on site they quote from saying on the phone

Jab (post 1129) is *not* quoting me, despite appearances. So I assume he is intending to agree with me.

Mort (post 1130). I thought the NewUsers list had been long recently for 3 reasons: SSO fiasco, getwriting and iCan. Those latter sites should really be responsible for their own greetings. The other reason it seems like a lot to do is because many of the ACEs don't do their official job at all, ie welcoming people. They would much rather do the side "job" of chatting elsewhere just as they would anyway or the self-assigned "job" of pursuing and harrassing people. This has been seen throughout the history of the site, is not anything new and in no way exclusive to banned researchers such as AWOL.

Intern (post 1133): I think you've got that the wrong way round. I thought I.V. was saying you are subscribed to her messages (ie automatically getting one whenever she does or subscribing individually). She wouldn't even be able to do what you claim by being subscribed to your messages if you are the one following AWOL rather than waiting for people to post on your PS that they've found him.

Intern (post 1134): There's a difference between spying on people's threads = lurking (either regarded as bad or as customary practice), being subscribed to those threads (pretty much stalking, depending on intent) and posting disruptive and provocative things like "ya-ha got you now you'll get yours" (which I just made up for this example!). If I.V. did the latter once upon a time, you could have told her politely that she wasn't welcome. Following her around in return and posting such things on her "private" conversations is hardly an acceptable response (if you are now claiming you only do it because she did).

AFAIK, we are *not* welcoming any newbies from outside of h2g2.

jab
re: post 1129

Well could you let us all know how exactly things are `working out`, because as far as i can see there has still not been any evidence produced to back up the claim that Aces act like a `pack of wolves` etc.

I, myself, have never had any problems from any of the Aces on this site!!!

Totty

totty i agree with you on that point any where have you been hiding dont answer on this thread

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