A Conversation for The Manifesto for the Campaign to rename Thursday, "Thing"

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Post 44501

Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista)

Doesn't "Atheist" mean "without theology"? Which is, of itself, a theology... smiley - weird


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Post 44502

Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs

No, think it's a=no theo=god. No god. What you mean is agnostic.


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Post 44503

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

Nope.

A - not
theos - root word for theology
deios (correct me if that's the wrong Greek spelling) - root word for God/god

Agnostic means, so I was told once, literally "don't know." Agnostics are the people who can't decide either way.


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Post 44504

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

Redux:

not "root word for god" but "Greek word for god". Preview, preview...


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Post 44505

Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs

-ology means, well, the precise word fails me, but it means something like: subject about...

Theology is therefore a study about God, therefore theos stands for god. Atheism is the belief that there is no god.


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Post 44506

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

Dear Ralph, please read some Latin and Greek.

-ology means study. Therefore, something like geology is the "study" of "geos" or earth.

Theology, according to Mr. Webster, "the study of a religious faith." Atheism is not *literally* the belief that there is no god, but a fleeing from theology. The belief that there is no deity is part of it, but it is not what the word itself means.

At least, I don't think so. I'm not an etymologist (though I'd sorta like to be). *hides*


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Post 44507

Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs

I have actually read *some* latin and greek. And this has lead me to believe that Theos means god.


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Post 44508

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

It does; however, in the context of "atheism" it means without faith.


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Post 44509

Jon Quixote: steaming little purple buns for tea.

Watch out Paul H ere I come.


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Post 44510

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

(sorry to get all pi**y there, but translations don't go direct from one language to another, especially with Latin and Greek in relation to English)


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Post 44511

Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs

Okay, okay, let's end this on a friendly note: I refer to myself as an Atheist, because I do not believe there is such a being as God. Okay? All cleared up?


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Post 44512

Jon Quixote: steaming little purple buns for tea.

Well an atheistic religion ie Communism still has faith just not in a god, so I think Theo is for god and is literal.


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Post 44513

Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs

atheistic religion is a bit of a paradox, isn't it? Religeon is the worship of one or more gods, atheistic means you do not believe in a god. Anyway, communism isn't a religeon, it's a political orientation.


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Post 44514

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

Ralph - well aware. I was just worried that your definitions were getting confused. smiley - weird Sorry... academic at heart.

Atheism is a kind of religion in a way. I've heard of atheist churches, which seems to defeat the point. Also, it seems difficult to deny the existance of something - in order to deny it, it has to exist in the first place. But that's just me, and this isn't a theological debate forum.

Communism does have a bit to do with religion - one of the main reasons communism can't work is because it requires that everyone have similar morals and philosophical values - or, to put it in its Greek context, the same religion. Disagreement means problems in the ranks of the supposed equals in a communistic society.

Would type more, but dinner's on... smiley - run


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Post 44515

Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs

I think the main difficulty in communism is financial rather then religeous; due to equal wages, people lose the stimuli to produce. Anyway, the only reason communism insists on supporting atheism is because Karl Marx saw religeon as a means for repressing the working classes.


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Post 44516

Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista)

Communism isn't a religion, it's a philosophy. It's still a belief system with its own self-contained faith structure. smiley - geek


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Post 44517

Shea the Sarcastic

Just like Thingism! smiley - ok


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Post 44518

Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista)

Indeed. Or Thingology. smiley - biggrin


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Post 44519

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

The study of Thing... smiley - bigeyes


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Post 44520

Lady Scott

How do I love Thing? Let me count the ways...


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