A Conversation for The Manifesto for the Campaign to rename Thursday, "Thing"
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted May 16, 2003
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Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs Posted May 16, 2003
No, think it's a=no theo=god. No god. What you mean is agnostic.
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted May 16, 2003
Nope.
A - not
theos - root word for theology
deios (correct me if that's the wrong Greek spelling) - root word for God/god
Agnostic means, so I was told once, literally "don't know." Agnostics are the people who can't decide either way.
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted May 16, 2003
Redux:
not "root word for god" but "Greek word for god". Preview, preview...
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Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs Posted May 16, 2003
-ology means, well, the precise word fails me, but it means something like: subject about...
Theology is therefore a study about God, therefore theos stands for god. Atheism is the belief that there is no god.
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted May 16, 2003
Dear Ralph, please read some Latin and Greek.
-ology means study. Therefore, something like geology is the "study" of "geos" or earth.
Theology, according to Mr. Webster, "the study of a religious faith." Atheism is not *literally* the belief that there is no god, but a fleeing from theology. The belief that there is no deity is part of it, but it is not what the word itself means.
At least, I don't think so. I'm not an etymologist (though I'd sorta like to be). *hides*
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Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs Posted May 16, 2003
I have actually read *some* latin and greek. And this has lead me to believe that Theos means god.
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted May 16, 2003
It does; however, in the context of "atheism" it means without faith.
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Jon Quixote: steaming little purple buns for tea. Posted May 16, 2003
Watch out Paul H ere I come.
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted May 16, 2003
(sorry to get all pi**y there, but translations don't go direct from one language to another, especially with Latin and Greek in relation to English)
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Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs Posted May 16, 2003
Okay, okay, let's end this on a friendly note: I refer to myself as an Atheist, because I do not believe there is such a being as God. Okay? All cleared up?
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Jon Quixote: steaming little purple buns for tea. Posted May 16, 2003
Well an atheistic religion ie Communism still has faith just not in a god, so I think Theo is for god and is literal.
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Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs Posted May 16, 2003
atheistic religion is a bit of a paradox, isn't it? Religeon is the worship of one or more gods, atheistic means you do not believe in a god. Anyway, communism isn't a religeon, it's a political orientation.
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted May 16, 2003
Ralph - well aware. I was just worried that your definitions were getting confused. Sorry... academic at heart.
Atheism is a kind of religion in a way. I've heard of atheist churches, which seems to defeat the point. Also, it seems difficult to deny the existance of something - in order to deny it, it has to exist in the first place. But that's just me, and this isn't a theological debate forum.
Communism does have a bit to do with religion - one of the main reasons communism can't work is because it requires that everyone have similar morals and philosophical values - or, to put it in its Greek context, the same religion. Disagreement means problems in the ranks of the supposed equals in a communistic society.
Would type more, but dinner's on...
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Ralph the Wonder Llama and André the dodo; Excrement Occurs Posted May 16, 2003
I think the main difficulty in communism is financial rather then religeous; due to equal wages, people lose the stimuli to produce. Anyway, the only reason communism insists on supporting atheism is because Karl Marx saw religeon as a means for repressing the working classes.
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted May 16, 2003
Communism isn't a religion, it's a philosophy. It's still a belief system with its own self-contained faith structure.
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted May 16, 2003
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Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents. Posted May 17, 2003
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Lady Scott Posted May 17, 2003
How do I love Thing? Let me count the ways...
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