A Conversation for The Manifesto for the Campaign to rename Thursday, "Thing"

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Post 37601

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

Hmmm... not to be annoying, but what about all that water you drink? You don't precisely give that back.

I figure that if people didn't eat animals, the earth would soon be overpopulated by the things, seeing as we've removed most of the natural predators of cows, chickens, turkeys, pigs, and everything else.

I do make it a rule, however, to never eat anything I kept as a pet at one time (therefore no smiley - bunnys or smiley - ponys, though smiley - fish are borderline).


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Post 37602

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

You don't technically eat *cows*... just bulls that aren't used for mating. It's a tragedy to be born male in a bovine society. smiley - skull


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Post 37603

ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

I know an animal is consious - I've had pets.
And I've experienced pain and I fear of death, so I wouldn't wish it on any other animal.
Anyway farmed potatoes are all clones, most plants are clones of the original.


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Post 37604

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

smiley - sadface


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Post 37605

Yael Smith

Too heavy a subject for you, Atari?


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Post 37606

Uncle Heavy [sic]

farmed potatoes arent all clones. you breed a cow just like you breed a potato. animals clearly arent conscious. they dont have the brain capacity. we dont eat pets anyway, so unless youve had a conscious pet cow, ill continue to eat beef, ta.


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Post 37607

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

A bit of light silliness perhaps? smiley - smiley


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Post 37608

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

O yes, I agree that an animal is conscious. Just what it's conscious of is the subject of many a debate. Unfortunately, I like turkey and beef too much to worry about it. If anything, eating it removes it from a bad life - I don't know how many farms you've been on, but most animals live in absolutely atrocious conditions, rarely something that effects them as food because their lives are ended so quickly, but something that would be detrimental to the quality of their lives if they lived any longer.

Also, those animals that are generally eaten aren't exactly the brightest. Cattle are bloody stupid, and have been bred that way, so are chickens. So I doubt they worry about the state of their souls.


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Post 37609

Yael Smith

Excuse me while I go eat my chicken sandwich...smiley - smiley


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Post 37610

Uncle Heavy [sic]

(pst amy: 75% of your arguments didnt help)


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Post 37611

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

I guess there's a lot you could say on the subject...


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Post 37612

Narapoia

I've always been more concerned about how they are kept when they are alive and how they are killed, rather than the fact of killing them per se. So I only eat free range and preferably organic, and preferably from a known source.
Not sure about the idea that if we didn't eat them then we'd be overrun - if we'd never eaten them they probably wouldn't exist any more, certainly not in their present genetically selected form anyway.

Bacon buttie anyone?


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Post 37613

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

smiley - tongueout UH.


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Post 37614

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

smiley - yuk
Stop, or i'll unsubscribe smiley - wah


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Post 37615

Uncle Heavy [sic]

see what narapoia wrote for why your arguments werent handy...


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Post 37616

Uncle Heavy [sic]

i think i like black pudding a lot. its all blood, but way tasty


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Post 37617

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

STOP!!! smiley - wah


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Post 37618

Amy: ear-deep in novels, poetics, and historical documents.

Two sides of the same argument. And quit tormenting Atari. smiley - cross


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Post 37619

Uncle Heavy [sic]

oh, alright. but we live in the real world atari, and its not a very nice place. you cant hide from...ABATOIRS!

ok, ll really stop now smiley - smiley


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Post 37620

Atari - Tok'ra (With my symbiote Jullinar)

smiley - crysmiley - towel
Thanks Amy smiley - hug


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