h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

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I didn't think you were saying I was wrong - or anyone was.
Different areas for different religions?
No

Justin

most fo the people in this thread have strong convictions on religious matters, in a variety of directions. If you are trying to convert us to Christianity, to "save" us, to get us to know God, etc, I'm afraid you're in the wrong place. We are not that easily persuaded.

Hasslefree,

Where does the Scripture say that to speak to the unsaved who do not know God, and warn them of what is coming to them, is 'blasphemy'?

I would not DARE blaspheme Him!

Justin

"Well, thank you, but I just want you to come to know the Person who made you too."

Why?

Hasselfree,

Well, because He is so wonderful, and you will never have that 'come home' feeling any other way. All that wishes to stay separate from Him will be destroyed. No sin is going to pass into the new Heaven and new Earth, come Judgement Day.

I simply want the best for you.

Justin

justin
you were the person who said debate was blasphemy
This is a debate, no matter what you choose to call it
What do you call it by the way?
what is your definition of debate?
Do you think this place is soley for your use as a platform to praise your own beliefs and dam the belief of others?

Justin

" I simply want the best for you."


why?

I would venture that plenty of us here have got that 'come home' feeling from alternative sources. Undoubtedly that is the devil's doing, but how can that be when by definition what that gentleman supplies is unsatisfying and false?
and why do you consider feminism a sin?

[Stops busily writing Scry's part in his play]

OK Justin. Here is a perfectly legitimate test of your claim.

What is my middle name?

You could go to God and ask him. I doubt that God is going to give you the answer. Perhaps, if you really have to find it, you could...

...ask me (or someone else who knows it) what it is, and thus find it out - and you would now, should you choose to use the brain that God has given you, be able to recall and quote (when necessary) my middle name.

So go on: what is it?

(Hint: there are things for the head and things for the spirit. This one's for the head.)

[Goes back to sorting Matholwch's robes, which look suspiciously like they were stolen from the Santa in the Mall...]

- Jordan

Oh, and I would be greatful if you would tell me this: if someone believed in Christ and obeyed God's commandments not to steal and not to lie, but only for the selfish aim of getting to paradise, were to die today, whilst someone else who has strived to be good unselfishly dies in an attempt to save the life of someone he has never seen yet has never had the opportunity to hear the word of God, has never even heard of the Bible: what would you say their respective judgements would be? Guess if necessary. And show your working.
I wonder if we could simplify all this into some simple algebra...

- Jordan

Hasslefree,

Ah, my fault in not making myself clear I think. The Truth of Alighty God is NOT up for debate. How that relates to people may be, in some circumstances.

You will not find me praising my beliefs. But you may find me pointing up the Antichrist nature of other things

Hope that is clearer.

Justin

"But you may find me pointing up the Antichrist nature of other things"

That would be any religion you disagree with then, would it Justin?

Hasslefree,

Why do I want the best for you? Simple really; like all fundamentalist Christians I am a lover of men's souls (that is generic by the way). Christians do what they do because they love you. Unlike the fundamentalists of some other religions one could mention.

Mandragora,

Hello. Satan is anything but a gentleman I am afraid, and he is more than willing to give you false satisfaction in what you are in, if he can, to keep you from the Truth.

Feminism is the reverse of God's way. You can see it in society. Whatever you see the current tendency doing the reverse is God's way. That is God's way is to reflect the order in God; Father, Son,and Holy Spirit; man, woman, children. God says that woman was made FOR the man, and to have women in authority is the exact opposite of God's way, which is why you see the devil pushing it hard in society. And other things too.

As a general rule, if it is persued in society it is Antichrist.

Justin

Excellent Justin right answer. Because you love me!

Will you , loving me. consign me to a firely pit for all eternity because I don't subscribe to your words?

So, if christianity is pursued in society, it's antichrist?

Jordan,

Generally God does not divulge that kind of info, as I don't need to know it. I do not possess the necessary gift of the Spirit either.

This is not a game Jordan, this is deadly serious. Faith is a gift of God. No one can savingly believe until God author the faith necessary in them. It is all by grace.

Even if someone could answer your question you would still be without Christ. Jesus healed the sick, raised the dead, preached the gospel, and did no wrong, but they still crucified Him. Being witness to miracles does not make anyone a Christian.

Jordan,

Ah, algebra...... I hated it.

You seem to have missed some information somewhere. You are not saved by doing good works or keeping a set of rules or regulations. It is emphatically not a Brownie points system.

All human beings are born on the road to a lost eternity. They inherited it, and they cannot help it. This is because of SIN. Sin is a power which produces wrongdoings in ones life. It is impossible to overcome the power in ones own strength regardless of the amount of religion practiced. If it were then the Cross of Christ would have been unnecessary.

Salvation is from sin, and Hell is only a consequence of sin. Sin is the issue. It is sin which damns a man to Hell, and from there to Judgement Day, followed by a lake of fire forever.

No one can earn their freedom from sin. They have to come to Christ HIMSELF, not religion about Him, and receive a new life, free from sin.

Ah Justin!

Now we seem to be getting to the nubbin of your debate (or nubbins actually).

Where then is this 'Moral Law' described? I will assume until you tell me otherwise that it is contained in your holy scriptures. If as you say: "I do the whole of the Moral Law", then can I ask how many adulteresses you have stoned this year?

I have not called your God a liar. Your quote is correct, but I do recall from sunday school that at one point he was challenged over whose law people should follow, and he said that all should follow the law of God.

Again with the blasphemous arrogance. How can you know that God has shared all he has in his mind for you? For all you know he may have a martyr's path marked on your card, but realises that you are not yet ready to accept so serious a revelation.

I am but a foolish pagan but I would never presume to know the minds of the gods I interact with. It would be arrogant and rude to do so.

If it helps you to justify listening to me, and possibly learning a thing or two, then I will happily bray like an ass (some say I do that anyway).

I look forward to continuing to debate the word and will of your God with you.

Blessings,
Matholwch the Apostate /|\.

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