h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Egon,

Not at all. I am someone else's servant, and what is contrary to Him is what I point up.

Justin

Jordan .

"Are we talking about the same Matholwch? About the kind, consciencious, thoughtful, intelligent, erudite Matholwch? Or has some terrible misjudgement been made?"

Either this is some terrible case of mistaken identity or I am about to collapse in a terminal blush .

Has someone answering that description hacked into my researcher account and been writing my mails?

Blessings on your kindness,
Matholwch the not quite sure where to put himself /|\.

Are you saying you are a prophet?

I am not playing a game. I am being deadly, deadly serious. I am concerned for your wellfare and I am seriously frightened at what appears to be a self-imposed limitation on your own abilities. I am seriously worried that you will come before Jesus, and he will look at you and say 'You have wasted yourself; I despair for your soul, for in your foolishness and your vainity you have failed me and have not hearkened unto that which was liberally given you.' How terrible is that? How awful, how horrible it would be if someone got themselves so lost through their own pride, if someone closed their ears so much, that they acted not as Jesus had commanded them but as they wanted Him to command them. What a terrifying end that would be.

God does not author our FAITH! He gives us the opportunity and He hopes that we will /take it/. We are told that should we ask, we will recieve. We do NOT need to wait for God to give us the go ahead because he has already /told us/ that we have it. Are you getting the picture, Justin?

In the name of all that is under my power - in the name of all the power that God has give me - I ask you to LOOK AT YOURSELF. You are blind. You can't see it because you refuse to remember having sight. When you finally realise your blindness, Justin, ask. You'll recieve.

- Jordan

Hasslefree,

It is not in my power or gift to consign you to anything. Those things are in the hands of Jesus Christ, the Judge of all the Earth.

He hates sin, and no sin is going into the new creation. All who will not come to him while still alive here, and get sin dealt with in them will be cast into the lake of fire.

That means the vast majority, as they wish to hang on to their sin, and don't want Christ and His way. But God has already spoken, 'the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life,' for all who will come to Christ and get free from sin, and being their own lord, their own god.

It is nothing to do with you not subscribing to 'my' words. If what I tell you differs from what Almighty God says ignore me. But your problem is 'what does Almighty God believe and say', as you can bet He does not lie,and what He says is going to happen will happen.

Justin

Hi Justin .

"I would not DARE blaspheme Him!"

I repeat my question of quite some days ago:
What is it like to live in fear of your God?
And to live in fear of his creation - the Devil?
And to live in constant fear that you may not be worthy?

Can you see how this life of fear and obedience might just be a teensy-weensy bit unattractive to those at whom you preach?

Blessings,
Matholwch the Apostate /|\.

Egon,

Did I even suggest such a thing? I think you are being a bit of a pedant.

You said that as a rule of thumb, evberything pursued in society is the antichrist> An awful lot of people in our society believe in God- your logic would make that the actions of the antichrist.

" I think you are being a bit of a pedant"

Oh, I know I am.

I read your second post. Brownie points? You reduce all that is noble, all our effort, all our hard work, to BROWNIE POINTS?

COMING UNTO CHRIST IS NOT POSSIBLE IF YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A CHRIST. This is glaringly, blatantly obvious. How can I come to a man I have never heard of, cannot see, who will never, ever, in my lifetime, appear to me? How on earth can someone from a tribe in the Amazon come to Christ? So are you saying that only those who live in the Western world even have a chance to be saved? That God never did value a soul? Because he did. Look it up. Not knowing about Christ, in these circumstances, is not a result of Sin - it's a result of Geography.

Do you jump out of the way of the car that is speeding towards you? I'll bet you do. You know what you're doing?

I'll leave you to answer that.

- Jordan

Matholwch,

The moral law you can see some of from Lev.18 - 20, and various other places.

You are forgetting that we are now under the New Covenant. The Law of the land should be altered so that adulterers are punished, and others too, though this will not happen until Jesus come to reign in power with His people.

Jesus was speaking of what would happen when He brought in the New Covenanat.

To refuse Christ and be in a religion which rejects him is 'blasphemous arrogance', not to be obedient to Him and be His disciple.

Egon,

No, I am not. I am a preacher.

Justin

Matthew
6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Some of us have seen this light and have been changed by it. Have you Justin?


Alji

Jordan,

Thank you for your concern, but you are not very well placed, as a man who does not know the Lord Jesus to tell, are you?!

Not true, "Faith cometh by hearing,and hearing by the Word of God."

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"

I am not sure what school of theology you are in, but you had better leave, fast! How on Earth do you think you can teach the Bible to a man with a Bible College Degree then, Jordan?

Matholwch,

I don't is the short answer. I am in Christ, and I rely on His righteousness, not my own, so I have no fear about my 'worthiness'.

You misunderstand what I am saying. I am not on a sales pitch here. God does the saving, not me. Fear is only in those who know that they are not where they should be in God.

Egon,

The number of God's people in the UK does not exceed, in my best estimate, 1% of the population. Indeed, there are many who have a belief system, and call it 'Christianity', but it is not that which God defines as His. That religion is about Him, without Him, and, yes,it is abhorrent to Him.

Ah Justin!
"How on Earth do you think you can teach the Bible to a man with a Bible College Degree then, Jordan?"

Again with the pride and the arrogance. Do you really believe that your minister's certificate and your 'Bible College Degree' make you a better representative of your God? Surely God chooses his champions based on the purity of their soul not the content of their educational baggage?

This really is not stacking up well for you is it, if you feel you have to put other people's education down to justify your position.

I suggest you get back into the meat of the debate than take time off to attack members of this forum. You will only gain friends and allies here through the strength of your wit and your message, not the through the sharpness of your tongue.

Blessings,
Matholwch the Apostate /|\.

What?

Have you ever heard that 'if God speaks to you, you're a schizophrenic'?

What are you claiming, Justin? Are you saying that you know Jesus pesonally? That you have seen him? Or perhaps that he has spoken to you?

Or maybe you claim the same relationship to God that I do - namely, to try to do his will and, through prayer, to pursue a connection with God. Though I doubt it.

I can't see. I genuinely don't get it. You say that a relationship with Jesus is what is important, but next you boast about your /college degree/? I never questioned your knowledge of the Bible. I questioned your understanding of it.

My concern for you is human, as is yours for us. You reduce God to something /lesser/. Why not see my earlier post from miles back about Karl Marx.

Your position is unassailable. Not because you are right, but because you refuse to admit that you are wrong. If I fell into the deepest sin, I could be unassailable because of refusal to admit my flaw. We can get nowhere when none of us are willing to be flexible.

And I must know this: why do you personify sin?

- Jordan

Really Justin?

"Fear is only in those who know that they are not where they should be in God."

Is that so? In that case all the baloney in the Bible about one having to fear God and be obedient of him, lest you receive a good smiting or an eternity in the lake of fire, is just that, baloney?

Justin you know as well as I that you are required to fear your God, and with good reason given the alternatives.....

Blessings,
Matholwch the Apostate.

Jordan,

No amount of good works will earn you a place with God. As He has clearly said, "All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags."

You seem to have huge gaps in your understanding, sadly. Jesus saves, we don't, not even ourselves.

Generally you are right, but Jesus said, "All that my Father hath given to me WILL come to me." He makes sure they hear.

You are on the kick of sinning your way to Hell, I thought I had got that one straight, my apologies.

ALL human beings inherit SIN. You are helplessly infected with it, until you are born again of the Spirit of God. SIN produces sins, wrongdoings. The fruit is the proof of the root. You sin because you are a sinner, and not the other way round.

In the same way, an apple tree produces apples because it is an apple tree, it cannot help it. If one could give it a nature change, and replace it with the genetics of a pear tree, it would produce pears.

Your works do not affect your nature, no matter how good. You must be born again, Jn.3

All human beings are sinners, by nature, hence the need for nature change; new birth.

John;
4:16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.
4:17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:
4:18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.
4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.


8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
8:13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
8:14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

Justin, why don't you believe Jesus?


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