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Montana Redhead (now with letters) Posted Aug 26, 2003
FG, I like your hair both ways, but it looks best when it's just below shoulder length.
(Good gosh, that's specific!)
I am just so unmotivated this week. I can't seem to get anything on my to do list done, and I keep adding it to the next day. I have got to stop procrastinating.
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Montana Redhead (now with letters) Posted Aug 26, 2003
so I was watching the Today show and they showed the fashionable shoes for this year...the pointy toed witch heels are still in. Guess I'll be unfashionable again this year.
Has anyone else noticed the whole 70's thing going on in fashion? Crocheted things and batik prints and flowing skirts and Frye boots, for crying out loud.
Well, either that or slut city. High heels with jeans? Sorry, the girl who slept with the entire football team wore that.
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Hypatia Posted Aug 26, 2003
Is it just me or are the fashions getting uglier each year? I know the shoes are.
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marvthegrate LtG KEA Posted Aug 26, 2003
Some fashions have been taken too far. They are just too provocative in public.
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Coniraya Posted Aug 26, 2003
My mother said never where anything that comes back into fashion if you wore it first time round.
So you will all be relieved to know that I gave up wearing mini skirts some time ago! Apparently knees age faster than the face.
However trousers and longer lenght skirts have never gone out of fashion in my opinion.
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Amy the Ant - High Manzanilla of the Church of the Stuffed Olive Posted Aug 26, 2003
Provocative, Marv? Do you mean provoking derision or are you suggesting something else. Tread carefully - women will never claim that men's fashion could possibly ever develop in any direction that would provoke them (the women) into losing control. Why should men be different?
I tried on some boots with very pointed toes yesterday. They looked very silly indeed and will date quickly. I refuse to buy anything that I can't get away with wearing for the next ten years.
I do like wearing high heels with jeans but I don't recall sleeping with any football teams .
I wear short skirts too given half a chance. And my jeans are currently flared just like they were way back when. Shameless!
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Montana Redhead (now with letters) Posted Aug 26, 2003
Amy, I mean stillettos with skin tight jeans. A low heel, or even a heeled boot, is one thing. FMPs with painted on pants...a little too much.
I think what Marv means is that some women don't seem to realize that really, they don't need to show that much skin. And when belly-baring shirts and hip huggers are being worn by girls as young as 10, that's just messed up. Peodophiles are everywhere...do young girls fashions need to cater to them?
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Z Posted Aug 26, 2003
[z] Off for my evening nap before A gets back from Brass Band rehersal all keen to practice.
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Amy the Ant - High Manzanilla of the Church of the Stuffed Olive Posted Aug 26, 2003
The problem is the paedophiles, not the fashion. The fashion industry is catering to the girls, not the paedophiles. I can't see anything wrong with seeing a ten year-old's belly. I can see something wrong with a man who looks at a ten year-old's belly and reacts sexually.
I meant stilettos too, but not the skin-tight jeans - I like to be able to breathe .
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Hypatia Posted Aug 26, 2003
I like it that clothes are more comfortable and casual than when I was young. I love sweat pants and jeans and jumpers (I think that means something different in the US and the UK). But when I dress up, I want something pretty yet tasteful, feminine without being too revealing. And I wish hats were in fashion again. I love hats.
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marvthegrate LtG KEA Posted Aug 26, 2003
MR has it right. I think that clothing in general (in Utah) has become somewhat revealing. Too much so for my tastes.
I see 10 year old girls dressed in what was considered risque club wear of only a couple of years ago, these days. I see high-school girls dressed up like prositutes. It is not conducive for a learning environment, regardless of what I felt when I was debating this subject as a student.
In my professional life, we have a very loose dress code. But some things are explicitly prohibited. These prohibitions are commonplace in today's youth, however.
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life is like a cup of coffee... Posted Aug 26, 2003
I am looking forward to the fashion revival of the 80's. I love the 80's, my wife for my 30th birthday held a surprise 80's party for me. It was great fun. We also got to see Bard in the Vineyard last friday, they did a midsummers night dream. It was very well done.
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Aug 26, 2003
I'd be really impressed if y'all managed to wrap the subject header story and account for the loose ends you've generated, by, say, post 1000. I will allow latitude for particularly suspenseful headers.
d'E, are you still getting it all down?
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Montana Redhead (now with letters) Posted Aug 26, 2003
Amy, I'm not saying it's not the pedophile's problem...it is. But really, is it okay for a prepubescent girl to go out dressed like she's hooking on the Sunset Strip? I think not. I walked into a department store and saw a playboy bunny on a t-shirt for a girl my daughter's age! What is that doing but teaching her that her sexuality is not hers, that it's for public consumption? While I don't disagree with you that women should be able to wear what they like and walk where they like without fear, I do disagree with you that children should be sexualized/ eroticized as adults.
There's something very wrong with a 10 year old wearing provocative clothing. She doesn't even understand what "provacative" means, so why are fashions placing her in a position of having to make herself sexual for others? That's crap.
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Hypatia Posted Aug 26, 2003
I've thought for years that swimwear is way too skimpy. Why bother at all? Just go naked. And what seems weird to me is that parents would be appalled (and the girl could be arrested)if their daughter went outside in panties and a bra or went to the store in a slip, but they let them wear these naked thong swim suits, which are far more revealing than normal underwear.
I'm in Marv and MR's camp on this one. I find many of the fashions worn by children too revealing and potentially dangerous. Apparently modesty is an outdated concept. And I don't like child beauty contests, while I'm pontificating.
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Aug 26, 2003
I don't like child beauty contests either. The problem with the fashions for children is that the girls, if they're getting that conventional upbringing, WANT to look adult. I remember wanting to shave my legs and wear lipstick long before it was meaningful (or necessary) for me to do so.
I have become completely impatient with fashion, and spend most of my life in jeans and a t-shirt (or heavier shirts and sweaters in the winter), except for First Day mornings. For the lecture I might wear the one pair of tan slacks I own, or, more likely, one of my long Lands End skirts with a simple top. I think that, at my age and with my figure, younger fashions would make me look foolish.
"With my figure" is probably the salient part. I was still dressing for fashion when I was physically fit and still dating, which wasn't THAT long ago. I cannot honestly say that I would eschew fashion if I still looked like that, how can I know? Right now, I have no interest whatever in serious discomfort of the sort advertised by those pointy pointy shoes!
Ad while "young" fashion gets more and more extreme, who wants to be relegated to the hideous outfits they sell for older women? Tops with monster-size flowers all over, matched up with acid green or perilous pink nylon slacks... Please don't make me go there!!
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dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC Posted Aug 26, 2003
I'm still getting it all, Lil.
Zeppo is enjoying all the gifts, and will be sending out thank-you licks very soon.
from whence they came.
Coniraya Posted Aug 26, 2003
I am so glad I had sons! I know I have regaled you all before with No2 son and his Phat jeans, or baggies, and their failure to defy gravity, but at least that episode was when he was at 6th form College.
As I had two brothers, was something of a tomboy and apart from having been to an all girls' boarding school, I wouldn't have known how to deal with daughters at all. No doubt they would have needed therapy!
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- 821: Bald Bloke (Aug 26, 2003)
- 822: Montana Redhead (now with letters) (Aug 26, 2003)
- 823: Montana Redhead (now with letters) (Aug 26, 2003)
- 824: Hypatia (Aug 26, 2003)
- 825: marvthegrate LtG KEA (Aug 26, 2003)
- 826: Coniraya (Aug 26, 2003)
- 827: Amy the Ant - High Manzanilla of the Church of the Stuffed Olive (Aug 26, 2003)
- 828: Montana Redhead (now with letters) (Aug 26, 2003)
- 829: Z (Aug 26, 2003)
- 830: Amy the Ant - High Manzanilla of the Church of the Stuffed Olive (Aug 26, 2003)
- 831: Hypatia (Aug 26, 2003)
- 832: marvthegrate LtG KEA (Aug 26, 2003)
- 833: life is like a cup of coffee... (Aug 26, 2003)
- 834: Garius Lupus (Aug 26, 2003)
- 835: Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence (Aug 26, 2003)
- 836: Montana Redhead (now with letters) (Aug 26, 2003)
- 837: Hypatia (Aug 26, 2003)
- 838: Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence (Aug 26, 2003)
- 839: dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC (Aug 26, 2003)
- 840: Coniraya (Aug 26, 2003)
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