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Justin, I was hit by a car, it wasn't the Bible that saved me from injury but my yoga training. After landing on the bonnet of the car and sliding off into a puddle I got up, walked to my van, got in and drove home. Appart from a slight dislocation of my shoulder (which I put back), I was uninjured. I see the driver quite often and I think he was more shaken than I was.

Alji, of the Red Dragon (Swynwr y Ddraig Goch) (conducting a sun sign poll at A712595)(Member of The Guild of Wizards U197895 looking for wiz kids to join, though you don't have to be a wiz kid just know a bit about some subject that you think will be of interest to others or just bore the pants off them. This is an equall opportunities space open to all sexes, ages and abilities)

BTW all I said to the driver was what did you do that for. (Silly question).

Alji (Member of The Guild of Wizards U197895)

thanks for the carefully-considered reply, Justin.

Is Alji's yoga training, since it nominally stems from another religion, wrong? Should we shun all non-Christian influences as they are the products of the damned?

Solution to fundamentalism, the only one I can think of is to grow out of it. Compare today's religious aggressors with the Crusades of what-used-to-be-Christendom.

Justin

Why do you call Ste 'Steve'?

It is not his full name, just another short form of his full name which his user page indicates is 'Steven'.

I am curious about why you are being so consistantly insensitive. (Not that Ste seems to mind much himself).

Ben

Caper,

I did not say or mean that. I said asking inane and idiotic things of God is offensive to Him.

Justin

Ben,

I was not being insenstive at all! I was just being repectful of his real name, and not belittling him by dragging his name down to inanity. I come from a different generation to you, young lady.

Justin

Alji,

I am not sure why you think a Bible would save you from injury in a car crash, but it was not your yoga training that did it either.

There is a day with your name written on it. Until that day you are invincible, and you will not be killed or die before it. One small proviso here, perhaps God may allow you to kill yourself before the time. But other than that you are not going to die until He say so. And when He say so you are going and there is nothing you can do about it.

Justin

Mandragora,

All Christians, (and by that I mean the ones who know God, the real ones, not just those with a religion about Him), do shun the pagan religions and their evil spin-offs, like 'yoga'. (Every Hindu will tell you that there is no such thing as exercise only yoga).

Fundamentalism, as I said in a post to Steve, is different depending on whom you are applying the term to. Christians are good people, and decent law abiding citizens. Catholics, Muslims, etc, etc, are very different. The Crusades etc., are a good case in point. But that is the Catholic religion, nothing whatever to do with Biblical Christianity, and nothing to do, what's more, with Christ. You cannot be a disciple of Jesus Christ, a Christ-ian, and do diametrically the opposite of what He says can you? In doing so you show that you are still a child of the devil, and not saved.


Justin

Justin

1) You say the sweetest things. It has been years since anyone has called me 'young'... I don't know what generation you are, and I don't think you know what generation I am either...

2) Ste's real name is Steven. His preferred name seems to be Ste.

a young lady (yipee!) called Ben

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Justin,

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Justin, I did not say 'killed', I said injured, slightly less terminal don't you think and it was my training that saved me reguardless of what you think.

So Justin you believe everyone will die at their appointed time, does that include murder etc.

Alji, of the Red Dragon (Swynwr y Ddraig Goch) (conducting a sun sign poll at A712595)(Member of The Guild of Wizards U197895 looking for wiz kids to join, though you don't have to be a wiz kid just know a bit about some subject that you think will be of interest to others or just bore the pants off them. This is an equall opportunities space open to all sexes, ages and abilities)

Ben,

Pleased to have been a source of uplifting to you!

Justin

Alji,

Yes it does.

Justin

Justin, don't you believe God gave us a free will.

Genesis 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
Genesis 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
Genesis 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Genesis 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee [shall be] his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
Genesis 4:8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
Genesis 4:9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where [is] Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: [Am] I my brother's keeper?
Genesis 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

So we can see from this that your God preferes carnivores to vegitarians.
Why did He need to ask? Why didn't He just say 'Able, you have killed your brother.'?

Alji (Member of The Guild of Wizards U197895)

> "Hindu/Buddhist conflict"

I've heard of conflict in India between Buddhists and Hindus, but I've not heard of any murders, nor horrors to compare with the Inquisition or Salem witch hunts, or even the Hindu/Islam confict in the same country. We'd be genuinely interested if you (or anyone else here) could provide details or links.

> "Plainly anyone who does not do what the Lord Jesus says is not a Christ-ian, a disciple of Jesus Christ, is he?"

Uh, no. Even fundamentalist christians occasionally sin and ask Jesus for his forgiveness. If you say that everyone who ever goes against the word of Jesus is not a Christian, then you'll find there are none.

-Xanthia

Alji,

God has given everyone free will.

God does not prefer carnivores, or vegitarians. Seems like a strange point, and I don't see why you say it.

Justin

Christian fundamentalists are as damaging to their societies as Islamic and other religious fundamentalists are to theirs. They may have not got such a violent reputation nowadays (even though they have been known to kill: "pro-life" campaigners, for example), but the damage Christian fundamentalists inflict in still a serious issue.

They think they are Right. Right about everything in a strict black and white fashion. They want to force their beliefs upon children of society, homosexuality? Bad, sex before marriage? Bad, abortion? Bad. And these issues are only the tip of the iceberg. What other way could it possibly be, they have God on their side and he is whispering their ear. These Christians want to force everyone to conform to their ridiculous moral code, and the scary thing is that in some parts of the world that is exactly what they are succeeding in doing! For everyone else who wants to live in a society that actually functions Christian fundamentalists are a constant thorn in their side.

But I suppose, Justincase (that is your full name is it not?), that anyone who does not conform to your personal view of a (fundamentalist) Christian is simply a "pagan" and is damned to all eternity (e.g., Catholics ). So you're ok, high and dry. Again I find myself saying this; how convenient.

Justincase, do you realise that by your definitions of what constitutes a Christian, that there are roughly thirty people on this entire globe that would fit your strict description?

Ste

PS "Love Thy Neighbour" is not something I would associate with a fundamentalist by the way.

PPS Justin, it's "Ste". S. t. e. Thanks.