h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Well, as one foreign peacenik who also happens by some extraordinary oversight of the American government to also be an American citizen, I've advised at least one senator, who just happens to be one of the 44 chiefs of the Cheyenne Nation, that based on the traditional wisdom of Sweet Medicine, as I understand it, I expect him to refer articles of impeachment against George W. Presidente for Life in Waiting Bush forthwith.

Whether he listens to me or not is immaterial at this point, because I suspect the whole damn Congress, with the possible exception of Robert Byrd of West Virginia, has been bought and paid for by the 150 million dollars the top corporations have contributed to political campaigns during the past decade while paying little if any appreciable income tax.

I suspect that's why the government and its corporate sponsors are being so free with the money now in support of the war, because it ain't their money. It's tax money after all that will have to be repaid by taxpayers not corporations who don't pay because of loopholes thoughtfully provided by their lackeys in Congress.

And since those corporations have probably been able to steal way more than 150 millions dollars in the interim, it's likely they still consider themselves ahead of the game.

But damn it, I don't consider them ahead of anything or anyone and I'll denounce them until my dying breath or until somebody else wakes up and maybe hangs them and their lackeys from the lampposts along Pennsylvania Avenue if that's what it takes. Enough is enough, people. If all this ain't taxation without representation then I'd like to know what is?

And that's not even addressing the moral issues where the war doesn't even mean the minimal criteria for so-called just wars.

Furthermore, the terrorists are in America, not Iraq, and so are the weapons of mass destruction. The UN resolutions should be aimed at them and the inspectors should be inspecting Nevada, North Dakota and New Mexico, and similar places, not Baghdad. Sanctions should be put on America against her neonazi government and for convincing her people to adopt a democratic constitution. Or better yet, pay attention to the one they've already got instead of letting a bunch of corporate pirates get around it.

Hello! Light's on but nobody's home it looks like.

Hi Analiese:

We just keep meeting up everywhere in agreement, don't we? About the arms inspections you request: http://www.rootingoutevil.org/index.php3/MissionUSA

Granted, it's unofficial. But it is an international group of scientists, parliamentarians, and common people who think like you an I. And these people are doing something, perhaps only symbolic, but a great symbol. I wish they'd get more attention.

Zagreb - *funny* how you assume that I don't know that you believe yourself to be a left-winger, just a Tony and his cronies do.

'Nobody said it was in *your* name.' - no , Mr Blair, you've made it perfectly obvious you are not interested in acting in my name, or that of the majority of the British electorate.

I saw the Azores speeches from the cowboy and the two stooges and what struck me was what dubya said about "the card game"! Like they have been dealt and now it was time to show. Really can we take anything of note from this kind of rhetoric, other than the fact that the guy is definately out of his tree! I mean these are words coming from a so called world statesman. I guess it was written to satisfy the blood lust of the bible belt flag wavers! Or maybe it is really all just a simple card game, where the dealer is judge, jury and executioner. And there was "two flats Blair" beside him nodding, yes a real case of the loonies taking over the asylum it seems. How in the wide world did all this happen? Forget 9.11 for this, as the real perps were Saudis and shouldn't they be the ones who are getting all this military attention perhaps! I dread what is going to happen in the near future, because plainly all this now is completely out of control! UN finished, NATO finished, EC split and now knows where IT stands, like for nothing! Imminent war not only in Iraq but in North Korea too. When will they ever learn?

Well, certainly it isn't looking to good. The interesting thing is that behind the scenes, Blair has been told by his senior Law Officers that this is an illegal war, so quite what his defence will be if indicted by the Hague, I don't know...

And of course, lets not forget that the aid promised to rebuild Afghanistan has been swallowed by the coming war as well, as will the aid promised to rebuild Iraq be swallowed by the war with Korea or whoever else is felt to be looking funny at Dubya...

"Hey FS - can you supply me with some (non-raving madman) links about how the Marshall Plan has never been repaid?"

This wasn't suggesting you were a madman FS, I was genuinely looking for some non-raving Marshal Plan links - all I could find were unhinged lunatics. Kind of you to volunteer though...

Well to coin a phrase 'the chips are down' and to add to the destruction of UN, NATO, EC etc please add the complete "humiliation" of vice president Blair. Now we will see just who has the bottle to stand up in his cabinet, those that stay in after this blatant disregard for the rule of law, deserve the contempt they will undoubtedly get. I regret the impending loss of life!

I hope that everyone remembers this time that it is the U. S. that is throwing the inspectors out of Iraq:

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/03/17/saddam_rxn030317

and the reporters are leaving:

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/030317/w031732.html

The US has also told the embassy staff in Kuwait, Syria and Israel to leave. The war has begun, we just wait the announcement.

"The interesting thing is that behind the scenes, Blair has been told by his senior Law Officers that this is an illegal war, so quite what his defence will be if indicted by the Hague, I don't know..."

He won't be. That's the thing.

I guess it depends on whether or not the Euros, or Russians or Chinese and the rest of the world get up on their hindlegs and oppose Bush and Company, which includes the wholly owned subsidiary, Blair-Britain, LTD..

I suppose this discussion is soon going to be about stopping the war in Iraq rather than preventing it. I really thought people were going to to be smarter this time. Silly me.

"He won't be. That's the thing."

Aren't CND already starting proceedings to bring Blair to justice?

I'm just depressed that our Prime Minister is pulling us into America's war without any recourse to the wishes of the people (that horrible little mass that makes up the bulk of the country) and only a compliant (and multinational owned) press to back him up.

I keep expecting to hear something on the radio or TV to reflect the enormity of what is about to happen, the people about to be sacrificed thanks to the US's 'pressing timetable', but all I hear is the same inane chat, irrelevent music and offers to win £5000.

The internet seems to be the only place mirroring the feelings of most people and, by its nature, the Internet is not available to all.

"A free press, a free press, my kingdom for a free press!" Shakespeare.

How are you so sure, MR, that he won't be? Bush *can't* be because he reneged from signing a treaty that was set up by the US in the first place. Blair didn't.

And unlike most other 'war crimes tribunals' (ie the ones Iraqi officers destroying Oil fields are being threatened with), the ICC and the hague Court isn't organized by the winners. It's organized by third parties who have no interest in who wins or who loses. Under the terms of the Treaty, this war willbe illegal without UN backing, which it will not get unless the French, Russians and Chinese suddenly have a change of heart.

Therefore, Bklair is liable for prosecution under the Treaty for carrying out illegal military action. A war Crime. The example i used in another thread is the Belgian Government prosecuting because a group of belgian Red Cross workers get caught in the cross fire. It's a very REAL possibility and, I suspect, lies behind Blair's sudden haunted a worried look.

Oh, but the press is free, Andy, except for the subscription services, and probably worth every penny too.

Welcome to the reality tv show version of World Wide Wrestling starring the Tex-Rex tag team of George the Bully and Tony the Phony against the evil hideous monster, Saddam "He Wears a Mustache" the Insane. Non-stop entertainment and it's absolutely free for a limited time only after which you're pay until it hurts and it will hurt too.

re: post 5792

On the channel 4 television show "Mark Thomas: Weapons Inspector", Thomas contracted a public interest lawyer to deliver a letter to 10 Downing Street threatening legal action if he committed British troops to a war with iraq without a new resolution.

Actually the United States not signing treaties or repudiating the treaties they have signed already doesn't work in their favor because they don't have a negotiating option then. Their only recourse will be unconditional surrender when the rest of the world finally decides enough is enough.

Speaking of treaties, since the United States failed to keep its commitments under the Treaty of Ruby Valley, I'm declaring the land cessions under that treaty to be null void and giving the United States and their non-Newe citizens 48 hours to get out of Nevada, Utah and northern Arizona and vicinity, after which I'm going to request UN sanctions against an illegally occupying power.

In effect the United States has done the same thing in Nevada as Hussein did in invading Kuwait and I expect the same level of international cooperation in opposing the United States and resolving this violently if necessary.

Yeah already the weasel words are a coming. Now it's all 'justified' by previous resolutions. Well it now proves that the UN is a waste of space in the area of Iraq and when it's all over it should remind Bush and co that they started it and now they must finish it! I see the EC has already said it won't be contributing, just hope that Gordon Brown has enough lolly to pay for all this, after all he can't pay for anything else in the UK just now. So it'll be interesting to hear what he's going to say about raising even more taxes to pay for the reparation. Oh I forgot the Iraqi oil 'held in trust for the Iraqi people' now THAT could be used to pay for it all! So then now it can definately be proved that they (Iraq) financed weapons of mass destruction! Bitter irony! Together with contributions from Kuwait, Saudi, the Emirate states and others. I don't think the Spanish will be too happy about coughing up despite what 'Lil Aznar" says. How about Australia I mean they are in aren't they. Are they ready to pay up too? Love the way they are all trying to blame France! Oooh dear no more champagne eh! I doubt if the French will lose much sleep over that. The splits are wide and it'll take many a long year to heal them for sure! So when's the kick off? I reckon about two hours or so after Generalisimo Bush has said a few words to his "fellow Americans" might just get the headlines in the Scum etc in the morning. With headlines such as Sad am! blah blah!

Analiese just go for it kid ! Right is right!

"Oil held in trust for the Iraqi people"?!!!! Hah!!! That's a superjoke if there ever was one.

In case anybody wants to know how the United States discharges its trust obligations me and several hundred thousand other "native americans" can testify firsthand. That oil is as good as stolen right now!!

Dear me no, the oil's going to be liberated.
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