A Conversation for Ask h2g2
What's Wrong With Americans
DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Jan 9, 2004
Interesting, Rev...
What's Wrong With Americans
seargantFlipper Posted Jan 9, 2004
Rev. Are you serious? A commercial like that is actually on the air? You would think that a somewhat intelligent person would see through it, but as they say "the masses are asses"
Abbi, I don't know about the Iraqi oil co. My knowledge here in Iraq is more on the tactical street level, with a certain amount of knowledge about the rebuilding activities through experience. As far as the war ending. "Major combat" ended in May. Basically when Baghdad fell Bush called the war over, yes folks it was a press move. I didn't see any contractors until mid may. I am sure that all of the projects are costing more than they should. There is fleecing going on but that is what DC is all about, right? However, you have to keep in mind that a project over here is going to cost more than it would in N America or Europe. Not just security, but the difficulty of not having the infrasturcture to support it. I wish you could post pictures on this site. I have a lot of good ones.
I know a lot of you out there such as Della (and I think you too Abbi?) think we should pull out immediately and hand Iraqis the reins. But we are putting the pieces in place to do that. Forming governments, building infrastructure I have been involved with the training and equipping of Iraqi Police and military.
America is a young country and modern society is getting very used to instant gratification. Both of these combine to make people very impatient. I think the biggest thing we need right now is to spend the time and money to make Afghanistan and Iraq viable nations where economic growth and freedom are possible. If we can do that I think that positive examples of Muslim states competing on th world market will take a lot more wind out of the sails of the terrorist recruiters than military power ever could
What's Wrong With Americans
abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jan 9, 2004
Since we are there I think the worst thing we could do is pull out quickly.
I have not gotten over the shame and disgust about the Shiites (is it?) that were promised help by the Sr Bush and then desserted which slaughtered another 400,ooo people.
I think they are owed a huge apology at the very least. They should not be desserted in that way.
The Iraquis must have a sense of power before we leave.
I also cannot help but think the decade or more of sanctions should have clued the US into what shape the infrastucture would be in. The UN had reports that were not considered. They could have used their information more efficiently.France and Germany and Russia knew the shape they were in from being sub-contractors there.
The lack of planning for the rebuilding is negligent.
What's Wrong With Americans
Saturnine Posted Jan 9, 2004
Ever heard of a political void?
No one in their right mind would think Iraq should be left to the Iraqi's right now.
(Especially when they would rather hand it back to the warlords than set up a brand new shiny democratic structure.)
However, I would still like to know whether the war we have caused is about humanitarian issues, or our own safety. I'm still just a *little* confused...
What's Wrong With Americans
abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jan 9, 2004
I would like to see the pictures ,too bad they cannot be posted.
I have not been to your page Sargent Flipper but a diary would be wonderful. Do you have one here or would you consider doing one about your daily life there?
*****
*waves* Saturnine ( sorry if spelling is wrong it's been a while!)
What's Wrong With Americans
Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid Posted Jan 9, 2004
That 13yr old Canuk Kid again.
Slouching towards Washington
A Super Furry Animal Posted Jan 9, 2004
Well, I don't know what the editorial policy of the NYT is, so can't comment...but, what exactly is wrong with (i) eating sushi, (ii) driving a Volvo? I have theoretical objections to everything else on that list, though (including polluting your coffee with lactic products).
What's Wrong With Americans
Saturnine Posted Jan 9, 2004
Oetzi? What are you talking about when you say : "That 13yr old Canuk Kid again"? You've put that in a few threads now. Very odd.
What's Wrong With Americans
abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jan 10, 2004
"Uncle Sam wants you"
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0109/dailyUpdate.html?s=mets
Numbers of volunteer troops available lowest in 30 years
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0352/mondo2.php
US looks to Canadas native Inuits for volunteers
I am also wondering if the non-citizens that are serving in the US military will gain citizenship if so desired?
What's Wrong With Americans
Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid Posted Jan 10, 2004
Emotionally Zoom is 13 and I'm 12. We're two kids who never grew up.
That's why we keep falling out. He likes me eally but pretends not to. I like him all the time. It's sad.
I beg you pardon. It was the sight of his post. I had not seen him post up for some time.
What's Wrong With Americans
abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jan 10, 2004
Aw you missed zoomer, he has that effect on people.
What's Wrong With Americans
toolman2 Posted Jan 10, 2004
Well one thing I feel is wrong: At age 20 you cannot drink in the USA, yet you are old enough to die for your country. I am American and feel Iraq is so messed up it will take a long time to get better. You see all the press "experts" from other countries who say it should not be a long drawn out occupation by the USA, yet when in history has this been done before with success and exactly when should this end and why, I would like to see their logic.
What's Wrong With Americans
abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein Posted Jan 10, 2004
http://www.worldmag.com/world/issue/01-17-04/international_2.asp
A view of the new Afghan constitution (from the right-wing)
Not done there yet
What's Wrong With Americans
Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid Posted Jan 10, 2004
Hello Toolman
The press need to sell copy.
Take the content with a sceptical eye.
What's Wrong With Americans
badger party tony party green party Posted Jan 10, 2004
So it sounds like the Bush and the boys are saying as long as you dont back terrorism you can be as religiously fanatical as you like just do it through your parliament so it looks good to the rest of the world.
Well at least they are true to their word. They are exporting US democracy.The US has a constitution based on religious codes. It persecutes minorities and passes all its religiously biased laws through its government.
Shame they cant give up illegal use of millitary force like they want other countries to.
God Bless America.
Key: Complain about this post
What's Wrong With Americans
- 6081: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6082: seargantFlipper (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6083: abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6084: Saturnine (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6085: abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6086: clzoomer- a bit woobly (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6087: Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6088: A Super Furry Animal (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6089: A Super Furry Animal (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6090: Saturnine (Jan 9, 2004)
- 6091: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6092: Saturnine (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6093: abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6094: Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6095: abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6096: Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6097: toolman2 (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6098: abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6099: Oetzi Oetztaler....Anti Apartheid (Jan 10, 2004)
- 6100: badger party tony party green party (Jan 10, 2004)
More Conversations for Ask h2g2
- For those who have been shut out of h2g2 and managed to get back in again [28]
5 Days Ago - What can we blame 2legs for? [19024]
4 Weeks Ago - Radio Paradise introduces a Rule 42 based channel [1]
4 Weeks Ago - What did you learn today? (TIL) [274]
Nov 6, 2024 - What scams have you encountered lately? [10]
Sep 2, 2024
Write an Entry
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a wholly remarkable book. It has been compiled and recompiled many times and under many different editorships. It contains contributions from countless numbers of travellers and researchers."