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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Started conversation Jan 26, 2012
I know that the Artists are very, VERY at the moment, but could I make a special
request?
could we have a 'cripple' or 'disabled'
, so places or events could be labelled as good or bad for people like me who have a disability, mine being mobility. It would save having to scour other sites which may, or may not, give an indication, and shouldn't be too difficult to include.
For example, my Kew Gardens entry, A80841413, could include an to indicate that it is
friendly, although that
doesn't fully work!
in anticipation.
MMF
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Jan 26, 2012
You'd probably be better off asking for this here: A388343
Also, on the subject of Edited Entries I think a blob would be preferable to a smiley.
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Jan 26, 2012
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Malabarista - now with added pony Posted Jan 27, 2012
I'm afraid use in entries isn't really a reason to make a smiley, as they're generally not accepted in EGEs anyway. A symbol is much more easily done as a blob. But even then, can't you just, er, write it?
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Malabarista - now with added pony Posted Jan 27, 2012
Mind you, a *series* of symbols - accessible for wheelchairs and prams, pet-friendly, steep climbs, good views, hot food, etc - might be useful at some stage for the more travel-guidey bits of the guide. But we'd have to agree on a more or less standard format first...
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KB Posted Jan 27, 2012
I was thinking along those lines, actually. Yes, they'd need to be pretty standardised. It's the kind of thing that's useful in a guide to facilities because you can see at a glance what's going to have what you want - rather than reading twenty different hotel descriptions, only to find they'll be no good to you anyway...
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I'm not really here Posted Jan 27, 2012
Then you'd need a carer blob as well, to show carers go free...
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jan 27, 2012
That's an interesting idea. At the moment we have some more urgent things to do, I'm afraid. But we could just go on talking about it and I can propose it for discussion at the next committee meeting?
I just think if we do it we should decide on a collection of a few basic symbols and not overdo it. Too many gets confusing for everyone.
Also if we do it the writers have to be made aware of this because *they* will have to provide this information. If a writer does not know for instance if a location is wheelchair friendly or not and so we don't add the symbol, will readers automatically suspect the location is not wheelchair friendly although we simply have no idea? Would it do any harm?
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Jan 27, 2012
Something similar to the smileys but separate that go in the title bar for the Entry... with ticky boxes in the Edit Entry window...
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Jan 27, 2012
"will readers automatically suspect the location is not wheelchair friendly although we simply have no idea? Would it do any harm?"
I imagine most would do their own checking to make sure. Some won't because they'll assume that the Entry is definitive. Some will politely let us know one way or t'other. Some might get a bit cross that we don't know. A very few will think we're the incarnate and are staunchly anti-disability.
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Icy North Posted Jan 27, 2012
I think this is a great idea, too. Will one of the Senior Volunteers be tabling it for discussion?
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Researcher 14993127 Posted Jan 27, 2012
I think you need to be careful not to choose images that can be confusing. There's a whole range of Disability signs that meet an international standard and instantly recogniseable. For example:-
http://www.disabilityjobboard.com/International_Symbol_of_Access.html
There's no copywrite issues in using these signs for EG articles or anywhere else for that matter.
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You can call me TC Posted Jan 27, 2012
Can they (smilies, blobs, pictograms) be searched for? Wouldn't some kind of a tag system be better? (Would save making a whole separate catalogue of entries for disabled-suited travel guide entries.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Jan 27, 2012
Tagging is being considered for all Entries, once we get the new technology, so that's a good idea too.
I like the symbol idea.
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jan 27, 2012
I liked the symbol first time MMF suggested it, I like it now.
As for the objection that "no smileys are allowed in the EG" - don't we make the rules now? Would people really be against adding useful icons, just because we don't allow winekeys?
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Malabarista - now with added pony Posted Jan 27, 2012
I'm not against adding useful symbols, but I repeat, there is no good reason to make them smileys rather than blobs.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Jan 27, 2012
I'd like a banana.
Also...a banana smiley.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Jan 27, 2012
(preferably peeled)
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- 1: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Jan 26, 2012)
- 2: Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... (Jan 26, 2012)
- 3: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Jan 26, 2012)
- 4: Malabarista - now with added pony (Jan 27, 2012)
- 5: KB (Jan 27, 2012)
- 6: Malabarista - now with added pony (Jan 27, 2012)
- 7: KB (Jan 27, 2012)
- 8: I'm not really here (Jan 27, 2012)
- 9: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Jan 27, 2012)
- 10: Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... (Jan 27, 2012)
- 11: Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... (Jan 27, 2012)
- 12: Icy North (Jan 27, 2012)
- 13: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Jan 27, 2012)
- 14: Researcher 14993127 (Jan 27, 2012)
- 15: You can call me TC (Jan 27, 2012)
- 16: Lanzababy - Guide Editor (Jan 27, 2012)
- 17: Secretly Not Here Any More (Jan 27, 2012)
- 18: Malabarista - now with added pony (Jan 27, 2012)
- 19: Edward the Bonobo - Gone. (Jan 27, 2012)
- 20: Edward the Bonobo - Gone. (Jan 27, 2012)
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