h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Hi Natalie, Jim, Mina (not sure who else is around...)

As you may be aware quite a number of researchers are concerned about the actions of a new researcher known by various IDs (here I will refer to him as Liam).

I understand that if anyone has a problem with a post that it can be yikesed and dealt with by the mods. However this situation involves mutliple posts, accounts and guide entries, so it would be good to have some clarification from the Editors about what the options are here.

The main problem initially was that Liam was setting up multiple h2g2 researcher IDs, then using them to set up help groups aimed at newbies. I posted my initial concerns about this on Askh2g2 because I thought that what he was doing was unhelpful and would potentially confuse new researchers - "Rangers, Bountys, Guardian Angels? What is going on?" F19585?thread=371013

Since then Liam has lied on a number of occasions about his h2g2 identites and actions.

Some of Liam's actions obviously break the House Rules and have been yikes and I assume will be dealt with via moderation.

However it is hard to see how his overall behaviour will be addressed by this. Possibly we could all just ignore him, but that won't solve the problem of him confusing newbies. Nor of his dishonesty and the confusion he has created when confronted by researchers about his behaviour.


So, my questions are:

1. To what extent is the H2g2 Team aware of Liam and what he is doing?

2. Is there anything that the Team can do?

3. Or is the Team already doing something, and can we please know about it?

4. In the case of multiple IDs, and guide entries, how is it best to yikes these?

5. If specific posts or entries are yikesed, can the moderation process deal with the overall problems, or do they have to be dealth with one by one?

6. Is there any way that the community can be kept informed of what is happening with the moderation process, or is it just a matter of waiting to see which posts or pages get removed?


Thanks,
kea.

And just in case you are able to do anything here is a list of IDs and pages I have collected from the various threads over the last week that are, or probabaly are, Liam. Surely this is spam to say the least, and possibly given Liam's dishonesty, it is trolling (designed to stir things up):


U552096 - Flicker
(Sue - Liam's Mum?)
- included for reference purposes.

I don't know if this is connected, it was off the editors page:
U552619 Researcher 552619
(I work for the British Red Cross.)

U556015 - Lee + Keeper of links

U558999 - Researcher 558999
(Unofficial "Guardian Angel" )

U559693
- "Apparently Lee/Liam is asking newbies for login name n password. I know i've been messing around on here but this must be stopped now. If he f he is greeting new people telling them all kinds of lies n then aen asking for personal details then he must not be allowed to carry on with this charade. i. its getting out of hand" F1724362?thread=370615

U561038 - Star_Rider ~ To_The_Moon_And_Back (Poet)
- "started out as 'un-official staff' then went on to be a 'Post Reporter', unsubscribed, decamped and moved on to U561257 Star_Rider ~ WW1_&_WW2_Host. As shown in a previous posting these and the earlier accounts were all signed off as Liam/Lee"

U561257 - Researcher 561257
(PS has been hidden by moderation. Appears to be the WW2 person)

U562548 - (UN)official h2g2 Porter
Has just been changed to: Unofficial h2g2 Junior Helper
(The new unofficial help group)

U564897- The_District_Dafty- offline for good
"Well what is there to say?
I;m an IDIOT!!"

U564934 - The_Heavenly_Devil

U552043 - MickeyMouse

A2252963 Mickeys Newbie welcome Guide

U562548 - @Unofficial Site Assistant (USA)@

A2248337 Edited by:@Unofficial Site Assistant (USA)@

(not all the guide entries are here)

MickeyMouse2 U552075

The_Thing -- St John Ambulance Adviser U552623

Researcher U555067

Researcher U555888

Liam~Unofficial-h2g2-Ranger U556527

Researcher U559717

These are additional ones I know of.

There was also this one from a couple nights back.

U564628 Internet Police.

they have also claimed to have been on h2g2 for the past 2 years of course that may not be true based on previous evidence

Star Fleet

Yeh he did say that but refuses to let anyone know what user name he was useing for past two years.

I know that this type of situation is sometimes better discussed off site, but alot of the community are talking about it anyway...

F615?thread=375405 (i think this was particularly out of order)
F27584?thread=375473
F19585?thread=371013
F138071?thread=375360
F19585?thread=374978

I Know you can't really comment but will be dealing with the situation.

Mort

I'm off to bed now. Can I make a suggestion or request - that we wait for a reply from the Italics and don't turn this thread into another general thread about Liam?

Maybe post if you have specific things that Liam has done that are relevant to the questions above *and* if you can post a supporting link. Try and limit other discussion though.

Given the large amount of conversation happening on this topic, I'm wanting to cut down on the amount of backlog I have to read each day. It might be useful to for the Italics too.

Two existing general conversations are:

THAT'S IT!!! F19585?thread=374978

Curing A Problem F138071?thread=375360

As well as the Ask thread linked in post 1



kea.

Just saw your post Mort . Wanted to add another request - when posting links put a note about what the link is. H2 has been running very slow here lately, and with the Liam thing I am often waiting a long time to open links I have already seen.


kea.

Jimster is aware of the situation. However, what can be done is another matter entirely. I just feel a fool for trying to help the guy out. *sigh*

Not forgetting some of his threads on the <./>ACEs</.> Homepage...


loup

He is also lying about his age. Liam says he is 17, MickeyMouse 15.

Just to pipe up and say that we are indeed aware of the situation and have now sent an email to the Researcher(s) involved.

Well i'm glad something is being done. I saw a posting by the Flicker id only 2 hours ago. Sorry can't give links its on that PS tho.

F89673?thread=375076&post=4811253#p4811253

Just to add, I received a lovely email from Flicker this morning. She's promised to curb some of Liam's more 'disruptive' actions and hopefully we'll all be able to get back to being chums and having fun again.

Although I might be easily influenced as I've just noticed she's sporting two of my graphics on her Personal Space

Thanks Jimster

Jimster, was the reply in ALL CAPS?

If you read Flicker's ACE welcome htread, it's obvious there are at least two people operating that ID... F1713104?thread=363542

Other's have had suspicions about Sue/Flicker too.