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Virabhadra Posted Feb 7, 2002
I guess I should join, since I am an avid mac user. But the unfortunit truth behind my entusiasm is that I am computer illiterit, and mac's are stupid people friendly. oh well, I supose it is as good a reason as any.
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Bob Gone for good read the jornal Posted Feb 9, 2002
Used to have one of the titainum I books, first computer I ever baught, left for my brothers uni work when I wnet to israiel it got scraped after he demagntised the mother bord in the physics lab..I was so happy
I willget another one soon though
well after the via for elly any way..dont know why Ime here really
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Spike Anderson is sorry he can't catch up on a whole month's backlog Posted Feb 9, 2002
Oh, don't I count? Can't I be on the list to? Pleeeease?
-Spike A.
P.S., Sorry about that. You forgot to add me to the list, though .
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Feb 9, 2002
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Spike Anderson is sorry he can't catch up on a whole month's backlog Posted Feb 10, 2002
Thanks, Peet. BTW, you can get rid of those long URL names in the Entry Data box. Just use the attribute. I'm very proud to have suggested that one .
-Spike A.
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Feb 10, 2002
Good idea! I'm working on it, but some sites have "&" in their name, which doesn't work inside a TITLE, and at least two sites have names longer than their URL... We'll see how it goes...
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Feb 10, 2002
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ThePixelGuru (MUG, SATS Member) Posted Feb 10, 2002
Virabhadra- How about stupit? (Other people, it's kinda like pickinick [clap clap], inside joke, sorry) Seriously, though - Good to have another iMac user in... We have Strider, me and you for iMacs, right (of the people we know outside h2g2)? See you around.
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Michele - Doily Mogul: Don't leave me! If you go there'll be no braincells in the room at all! Posted Feb 22, 2002
Sign me up please!!!
Here's my number (I think) A188754
Mac G4 533 Dual Processor
OS 9.1
1 gig of ram (yeah!)
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ThePixelGuru (MUG, SATS Member) Posted Feb 23, 2002
You said it, Galen. I want one of those with the dual 1GHz G4s... My friend says you don't need that much, but I say... that... I don't... need that much. But I want it really bad! Oh well. Hey, proof Macs rule and PC don't: single processer G4 @ 800MHz vs. Pentium 4 @ 2GHz in a contest to see which can run Adobe Photoshop fastest - the G4 won, by 26%. That goes to show those who say PCs are faster only look at a few numbers. Now, imagine running a dual 1GHz G4 machine... *zing!* Hehehe. . Oh well.
Jamie
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Feb 23, 2002
fyi, a P4 at 2GHz is the same speed as a P3 at 1.65GHz... Intel have been playing the "numbers game" for years.
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Michele - Doily Mogul: Don't leave me! If you go there'll be no braincells in the room at all! Posted Feb 23, 2002
I think they have a new dual 833 G4 out now! (drool, slober, drool!)
Now if I could just get the damn thing color corrected so that my monitor and printer jive... I have an Epson Stylus Color 3000 printer. And a 22" Apple monitor. I just put Photoshop 6.0 on, but when I went to upgrade to Illustrator 10 it won't print. Probably no driver for my old printer... darn it! So I am still working off of Illustrator 9.0! Of course all of this is on my computer at work. I have an old PC here at home, that I had to take Photoshop, Illustrator and Freehand off of - cause they move like molasses! (I hate desktop publishing programs on a PC!
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Feb 23, 2002
Ah... I was just reading about the Dual G4 the other day. I'd wait, if I were you. Nobody has written any programs yet that utilize the dual processors, and with files smaller than 10 megs, it'll only use one of the processors - which is only (!) 800 Mhz. It's a slower running machine than their next-to-last machine, which I believe was 867 Mhz.
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Feb 23, 2002
Ah, Lentilla, the joy of dual processors is the ability to run multiple applications more efficiently... I'm using two of Intel's slowest chips (Celeron 533s) in this PC, but for multiple tasks it "feels" faster than a 1.1GHz P3.
Also, I think you'll find that all of Adobe's "serious" applications have been dual-CPU enabled for the last few releases.
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Michele - Doily Mogul: Don't leave me! If you go there'll be no braincells in the room at all! Posted Feb 23, 2002
Exactly! Photoshop especially! My mac flips huge files around like they were tiddly-winks, and a comparable pc has to grunt, groan and warble it's way through just bringing an image up. Of course I blame that on windows - as it is such a power/memory hog itself that it doesn't really have a lot left over for the other programs...
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ThePixelGuru (MUG, SATS Member) Posted Feb 24, 2002
No kidding. What I mean is that Macs and PCs seem on par until you start running the big programs. Strider, for instance, has a 533MHz iMac (I think) and it's pretty fast, faster than a single 533 Celeron, for sure. For those of you who read Wired magazine, check out Apple's ad insert in the center of the latest edition; it's six reasons why Macs rule.
Jamie
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Feb 24, 2002
I'm not arguing with your numbers, TPG... But I got both the 533 Celeron chips and the dual-processor motherboard as an upgrade for £207 all inclusive. (£69 for the board, £69 for each chip...) If you *could* get a G4-533 chip seperately, that would be close to what Apple would be likely to charge for the single chip, without motherboard.
If you can afford it, obviously the style and convenience factor of Apple systems makes them a must. If, on the other hand, you are in the position of having a budget limit of around £200, an older PC and a pressing need to run "Photoshop" at a speed where you can get a commercial project finished reasonably quickly, then the only alternative to building your own PC is to hire a high-end Mac at £50 per day and hope you get the job finished in time. My way, you still have a usefully fast machine at the end of it...
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ThePixelGuru (MUG, SATS Member) Posted Feb 24, 2002
Oh, true, I know. That's my 1 gripe about Macs the amout of money. £ or $, it's still a lot. That's why I'm [hangs head in shame] about to buy a PC. 1.7GHz AMD Athalon XP, that deal. It's because I want something with a DVD drive on it, something that can run big movies, do all that fun stuff (and I want it in my room). Being a broke high school student with about $360 whose parents don't want to buy him one of the new iMacs right now, I'm borrowing money, buying a computer and working off $300ish over the summer, which means I'm going to have a hard time paying for gas and car insurence. But imagine if I got the Mac. Price aside, Macs are better, and you really can't get a PC as good as the higher-end ones.
Jamie
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- 21: Virabhadra (Feb 7, 2002)
- 22: Bob Gone for good read the jornal (Feb 9, 2002)
- 23: Spike Anderson is sorry he can't catch up on a whole month's backlog (Feb 9, 2002)
- 24: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Feb 9, 2002)
- 25: Spike Anderson is sorry he can't catch up on a whole month's backlog (Feb 10, 2002)
- 26: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Feb 10, 2002)
- 27: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Feb 10, 2002)
- 28: ThePixelGuru (MUG, SATS Member) (Feb 10, 2002)
- 29: Spike Anderson is sorry he can't catch up on a whole month's backlog (Feb 11, 2002)
- 30: Michele - Doily Mogul: Don't leave me! If you go there'll be no braincells in the room at all! (Feb 22, 2002)
- 31: Galen (Feb 22, 2002)
- 32: ThePixelGuru (MUG, SATS Member) (Feb 23, 2002)
- 33: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Feb 23, 2002)
- 34: Michele - Doily Mogul: Don't leave me! If you go there'll be no braincells in the room at all! (Feb 23, 2002)
- 35: Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) (Feb 23, 2002)
- 36: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Feb 23, 2002)
- 37: Michele - Doily Mogul: Don't leave me! If you go there'll be no braincells in the room at all! (Feb 23, 2002)
- 38: ThePixelGuru (MUG, SATS Member) (Feb 24, 2002)
- 39: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Feb 24, 2002)
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