h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

There you go Kess:

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You can pre-order now, you won't be charged till it's posted out, and £49.99 is a great price!

oh and here's a pic of the inside...

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Wow! That look's like something to ask Santa for then Sorry, I thought I had read BP was definitely leaving for Hollywood I personally think she has been great. David Tennant I think should follow on nicely from CE - do you?

I will Have to start saving! £50!!!!! ok, make that a £100 so I can get LOTR as well....

yea, DT is simerlar, yet very differnt, Hes a great choice. I think that It would have been easy to get it wrong.

also, for fan people, any past refererance to a "god of the daleks"?

Well, yes, no, but 50 quid - and it's only mid-June now, so, if you denied yourself a pint and a half per week until that time you would be quids in

I don't drink, but I'm gonna start saving anyway

I'm not looking forward to CE leavingI know I'm gonna bawl my eyes out on Saturday

I'll reserve judgement on David Tennant (never seen him in anything so don't know his style) until I've seen him in action - those are big shoes to fill.

*sniff*

I think CE is the greatest Dr. there has been. However I saw David Tennant in Casanova and he has the same edgy, slightly brittle but very humourous style. I think he will be OK, although, like you, I think a tear will be shed on Saturday

Well if Jimster can nail his colours to the mast ...

We must already know who the Bad Wolf is. Otherwise it would be like a Miss Marple story where the murderer suddenly arrived five minutes before the end and we'd never even heard of him until that point. We'd feel cheated. So in order to obey the rules of drama this has to be workable out.

*And* not only is RTD a tip-top drama-king, but he's heading up something which has to be a commercial success with huge numbers of non-Who-geeks if it's going to continue. So the answer must be within this series, non deep within the Doctor Who canon, in which case it's not Davros, cos nobody's even mentioned him on-screen this series (AFAIK). Anyway, I can't see Davros getting handy with the spray paint grafitti and re-launching himself as a new brand of baddie.

As an audience, though, our connection with the story is through Rose. She was the first character we met and she's a human from our time. And Rose has seen (it was "seen", wasn't it, not "met"?) the Big Bad Wolf: Gwynneth(?) said so in the Dickens episode. So *we* have also seen the Bad Wolf, some time between the opening of the first episode and that point in the story - or just possibly in Father's Day, when Baby Rose would have seen it and the memory been planted into her mind for Gwynneth to find several episodes earlier .

The internet nutter Rose went to see? OK, maybe not. That nice little blue plumber? Hmm. Platform One? The end of Planet Earth?

The Doctor was clearly already in the middle of something when we first met him in Episode 1. And the Nestene Consciousness (??? my memory is going) had arrived on Earth as a result of the Time War. The Dalek arrived on Earth as a result of the Time War. The Gelth arrived on Earth as a result of the Time War. Chances are Captain Jack and his hospital ship arrived on Earth as a result of the Time War. Bit of a theme here. The Tardis has taken the Doctor to these situations: he was expecting something Italian and he ended up in Cardiff, he got the date wrong when he took Rose back home ... and how the hell did the transmats manage to tap into the Tardis last week?

If the Daleks are still out there in full force, then I reckon the Timelords are as well, also hiding, but with a chip planted into the Tardis so that the Doctor can sort out some of the damage from the Time War. Only he doesn't know it.

*Sigh* Bad Wolf. I'm trying to think of all the things that Rose saw, that we might have seen, and none of us knowing that it was the Big Bad Wolf. Unless it's the "bad" side of the Doctor, the part of him that frightens himself, the power he has to change history. The Big Bad Wolf in the Three Little Pigs destroyed homes.

So my money is on:

Bad Wolf = the Doctor, a nickname given to him by somebody who doesn't like him, is watching him, is challenging him, is powerful enough to do what he does and interfere with time, and knows the Doctor's fears.

Heading up a massive Dalek army - Adam. That lone Dalek didn't disintegrate; it disappeared somewhere else, like Rose did last week, taking with it a stack of information about Rose, the Doctor, the planet Earth, and a smart-arse computer geek who took Rose to the lone Dalek and in so doing rescued the entire race. And the smart-arsed computer geek managed to reunite himself with them. Somehow.

It's also struck me that we've now had at least two women who have sacrificed themselves in order to save everybody else. If Billie Piper is definitely contracted for the next series then I'll stop worrying that we're being set up for something really gruesome this Saturday.

Rip to shreds as you like ... just remember when I'm proved completely wrong on Saturday that I'm not here because I'm *on holiday*, not because I'm hugely embarrassed at such in-depth analysing being blown apart by whatever tricks RTD has up his sleeve!

Mol

Traveller in Time memory failure . . .
"Did 'Rose' deliver the money from episode one? Or was that also part of a setup? "

Of course! Scrub all of that last post. Rose has still got the lottery money, and boy is the Dalek syndicate p*ssed off about it

Mol

Last week's episode something was clearly said about a "children's nursey rhyme"

The nursery rhyme is "Who's afraid of the big, bad wolf"

"Who's" being the relevant word for me.

"What" is the Doctor afraid of? He ain't afraid of no Daleks, that's for sure. The Doctor is afraid of letting people down, of making mistakes and people dying as a result. Remember his happiness at "at last! no-one died!"

He sacrificed himself to bring time back for Rose in Father's Day.

I think he's afraid of what he would do to protect Rose, would he risk the whole of planet Earth?

I've read a spoiler that says Rose can never go home - maybe the Earth is destroyed and the next series can only be about visiting the past because the Earth no longer exists in the future.

God of the Daleks...nope, never heard that before and I've been a Dalek-watcher since Doctor Who started.

Yeah, it occurred to me that the two questions / statements could both be true:

Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf
and
Who IS the Big Bad Wolf

Only four sleeps to go....

Yikes - they aren't going to bump it for Live8 are they?

Ben

Traveller in Time still in the mist
"They are going to insert a break in the live 8 concert, The half of Europe will be watching the Doctor blowing the house down."

No, Live8 is on later.



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Live8 9:25pm on BBC2:
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Did anyone see last night's trailer/teaser? 'I am the God of the Daleks', 'worship him, worship'. God=Creator=Davros? God I hope not. Why go to all that trouble of re-introducing a dalek as a great threat in 'Dalek' just to reduce them to the level of mindless foot-soliders again.

I'm sure the voice in last night's trailer was different from the one at the end of Bad Wolf as well, it sounded more just like a Dalek.

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I don't think reintroducing Davros would make the Daleks into mindless goons, this ain't the JN-T era y'know! Look at Genesis, those Daleks weren't mindless... Davros had created something more evil and twisted than he was.

Davros. Ho hum. How...uninventive.

Oh well. RTd has pulled some rabbits out of the hat before in this series, perhaps this will be another.

I reckon the butler did it.

Well I can't really think who else would describe themselves as 'the god of the daleks'. Unless we're talking god as in saviour, and then it would be whoever prevented them from being destroyed in the time war, and who would have that power? Well, I think Blues mentioned the chappy a while back, and that really would be someone the Doctor has reasons to fear.

I've decided to throw a sonic screwdriver in the works and change my Bad Wolf guess from Davros to the Borad...