A Conversation for The h2g2 Doctor Who Group
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Kaz Posted May 16, 2008
I just thought it was funny that the Doctor knew she was a clone without even having to find out, telling her he could smell her a mile off!!!
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Giford Posted May 16, 2008
Just realised that we have a break after tomorrow's episode - then it's a 2-parter by Steve Moffat, whose 3 previous Whos were The Empty Child, The Girl in the Fireplace and Blink. Then it's 4 RTD episodes to take us to the end of the season.
So hoping that's going to kick-start what's been a fairly average season so far.
Gif
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted May 16, 2008
I have been ctaching up on "Torchwood" and I have now seen the first four episodes of Season Four.
It has thus far been unrelentingly awful, and I cannot wait to see the back of RTD now...
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted May 16, 2008
In fact "unrelentingly awful" does not quite do justice to how bad I am finding S2 of Torchwood... god it is atrocious.....
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Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo) Posted May 16, 2008
It was a blip. Even The Brooker has the occasional up day.
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NPY Posted May 16, 2008
Definately wasn't the best episode last week. But hopefully things will pick up.
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van-smeiter Posted May 17, 2008
My immediate thought on the seven days' war was the Israel v Egypt (was it Egypt?) seven days' war. My history is bad but I seem to recall that the reasons behind that war were almost pointless.
Not sure
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Mister Matty Posted May 17, 2008
I think you mean the Six-Day War which was fought between Israel and several Arab states in 1967.
Certainly, from an outsiders perspective it was a massive waste of time, life and money but the Arab leaders who started it doubtless felt they had some sort of purpose in doing so (they all came away worse-off too, ha!)
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Mister Matty Posted May 17, 2008
Made an error: Israel apparently made the first strike, although it was in response to massive provocation from Egypt including calls for "action" (ie war) against Israel so it wasn't exactly the Israelis who started the whole thing.
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Mister Matty Posted May 17, 2008
Additionally, I don't think the "seven day" war from TDD was based on the Arab-Israeli war since there was an emphasis on both sides having forgotten the reasons in Who as well as the idea that the war had been raging for years. Doesn't really fit in with the 1967 war. It *was* a race war, though, which is, ultimately, what the 1967 conflict was about.
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted May 17, 2008
Well I thoroughly enjoyed that one. Cheeky but good.
In fact I tihnk this was the best of the series so far.
Also one more life or death choice right at the end!
FB
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Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo) Posted May 17, 2008
I thought it was superb. It's great when DR Who goes out of character. It almost made me want to watch Black Orchid, except Black Orchid is poop.
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Giford Posted May 17, 2008
Funny.
'I say, what are you doing with that lead piping?'
And an 'I had no choice' at the end - plus more bees and relationship references.
Gif
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STRANGELY STRANGE ( A brain on a spring ) Posted May 17, 2008
I didn't really think it was great, ok but not great. I don't really like Who programmes that are earlier than second world war and a wasp is hardly a monster in my book. Also there was sadly far too much of THAT woman , bring back Martha I say! And if it is going to turn into another Torchwood as some sort of right on touchey feely woofter thing that is the end. I stopped watching Torchwood as don't like being lectured to.
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IctoanAWEWawi Posted May 17, 2008
much silliness, not bad! Enjoyable I think. The 'monster' didn't really matter so much as it wasn't really about them. Personally I thought it was the end of the 'bee' speculation, but I guess the wasp creatures could come back.
Agatha actress was good.
No dependence on techotrickery either, which was good.
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Giford Posted May 17, 2008
I don't see how that explained anything about bees disappearing in Donna's time.
The whole 'unicorn' thing was a bit of a dead end; I suspect they came up with a title and just shoehorned in something to explain it. I thought they gay theme was nicely played, very subtle (they never stated it, but you knew the moment you saw the two of them together) and very different to the way it's done in Torchwood (where you knew as soon as you saw the two of them shagging ).
I also liked the 1920s way they did the transformation - pink lights and smoke
Most of the plot twists were transparent, but an enjoyable piece of fluff. Down side; the Doctor telling Donna not to do the posh accent. It was a reference to Rose's 'Scottish' accent. It's always slightly worrying when Who becomes self-referential like that, and it wasn't nearly funny enough to justify it.
But overall a good - though not great - offbeat episode. (And I do like the period ones; the Beeb does them well.)
Gif
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