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18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted Jan 18, 2006
thanks Jim
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish Posted Jan 19, 2006
can this be an offical BBC thing to kill of the yes yes yes thread ???
*heads off to look for BBC Bust servers*
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Jan 19, 2006
Considering that I get to access hootoo for *free* (even though the 'net is inherently *free* dispite claims that I *shouldn't* get h2g2 without paying Beeb fees) I am willing to put up with any problems. Thank you PTB for your hard work and understanding responses.
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | Posted Jan 19, 2006
please improve soon, before I will explode.
I am trying post one post for 30 minutes now!
meme webguide A573040 updated!
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
BMT Posted Jan 19, 2006
Hi Jim.......So what's the issue today then?...Took 48 minutes for me to log-in today and 11 minutes to post one message!
I had error messages with codes as well as server busy.I did my usual, tried 3 different browsers and the lap top all to no avail.
As for comments about this being a free service...it is not a free service...I pay just short of £5.00 a week out of my benefit for a TV licence and as such the BBC have an obligation to at least get the basics right.They are the one's pushing the online services at every opportunity.They have to get it right or scrap it!
I watched News 24 this morning and without exception every hour they tell viewers to go either interactive via the red button or go to BBC online!!!
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | Posted Jan 19, 2006
"My Most Recent Conversations" is not updating....
"Post Message" is not updating....
too many error postings
I want delete thread posibility, because too many error threads makes dna / hootoo like bad place! I am nearly 5 yrs on hootoo and I consider myself a hootoo pro
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
2221088 Posted Jan 19, 2006
Jim
You've posted elsewhere that the volume is 25 times in excess of projection, but here you say that it's 3 times. Which is correct?
As regards a 'sane archiving policy', why was it ever considered necessary or desirable to archive messageboard posts? The vast majority are bound to be ephemeral, as even those which are not greetings-type chat are off-the-cuff comments on one-off broadcasts and events, not contributions to 'research'. I think there was a complete failure to appreciate the different needs of the DNA 'community' and the messageboards 'community' here.
I'm all for encouraging more quality in postings but don't see how you can possibly achieve that other than by much more intrusive hosting and moderating (expensive and off-putting), or by a major cull of the boards which attract the most irrelevant or worthless content - rather a subjective decision there. I think you're caught between a rock and a hard place here - the rock being the need for a quick fix to a hopelessly error-ridden service, and the hard place being a need to make the fix coherent with the BBC's wider interactive policy. I hope you can find a workable solution.
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Jan 19, 2006
And there was me thinking it was very much a 'Bust Forum'.
It is frustrating having Broadband, and yet appearing to still be using - driven dial-up.
Maybe the elastic bands need tightening, or has Elton, the Hampster had too much pud?
But thanks all, and I hope it will be situation normal (if there is such a thing here) soon.
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
2221088 Posted Jan 19, 2006
Jim
You've posted elsewhere that the volume is 25 times in excess of projection, but here you say that it's 3 times. Which is correct?
As regards a 'sane archiving policy', why was it ever considered necessary or desirable to archive messageboard posts? The vast majority are bound to be ephemeral, as even those which are not greetings-type chat are off-the-cuff comments on one-off broadcasts and events, not contributions to 'research'. And what on earth use is an archive which cannot be searched? I think there was a complete failure to appreciate the different needs of the DNA 'community' and the messageboards 'community' when putting the new boards in place.
I'm all for encouraging more quality in postings but don't see how you can possibly achieve that other than by much more intrusive hosting and moderating (expensive and off-putting), or by a major cull of the boards which attract the most irrelevant or worthless content - rather a subjective decision there. I think you're caught between a rock and a hard place here - the rock being the need for a quick fix to a hopelessly error-ridden service, and the hard place being a need to make the fix coherent with the BBC's wider interactive policy. I hope you can find a workable solution.
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Wilma Neanderthal Posted Jan 19, 2006
>>>It is frustrating having Broadband, and yet appearing to still be using - driven dial-up.<<<
Hear hear.. I feel as if I am back in Lebanon on the donkey 'round a millstone driven internet connection
Here's a techie kweshun from a total nontekk: how comes if I do a "kwikclik" I get server busy but if I hold the click for a sec, I get through?
Love the site and really want to be on but it is getting very time consuming and I keep forgetting what I wanted to say - not altogether a bad thing, many would say...
W
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
BMT Posted Jan 19, 2006
Wilma...Hi......I love some of your postings...cheer me up no end!!
*sorry folks...back to the topic*
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Jan 19, 2006
"You've posted elsewhere that the volume is 25 times in excess of projection, but here you say that it's 3 times. Which is correct?"
Lennie, I believe the projection was for just under a 10x increase, while they've actually had just over a 25x increase, or almost three times the original projection. HTH
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Jim Lynn Posted Jan 19, 2006
"You've posted elsewhere that the volume is 25 times in excess of projection, but here you say that it's 3 times. Which is correct?"
Our original projection was that we needed to handle 10 times the existing traffic. So we upgraded. When the boards migrated, it turned out that it was more like 25 times the existing traffic (and is now higher even than that - closer to 30 times). So we are getting close to 3 times the *projected* traffic, or 30 times the pre-existing traffic.
So both figures are correct. It depends on where you start counting from.
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Wilma Neanderthal Posted Jan 19, 2006
You didn't answer the kweshun, StraightTalker
thanks for your very sweet words... Your cheque's in the post
to smack the servers 'round the chops again...
S
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted Jan 19, 2006
Jim, I'm only a learner at "real computing". Do all the beeb chat forums come under one server in London?, or are they spread out, up and down the county with say beeb Leeds etc.
thanks.
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Wilma Neanderthal Posted Jan 19, 2006
You didn't answer the kweshun, StraightTalker
thanks for your very sweet words... Your cheque's in the post
to smack the servers 'round the chops again...
W
Aaaargggh, they heard me - 4th attempt to get this thru
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted Jan 19, 2006
Jim, I'm only a learner at "real computing". Do all the beeb chat forums come under one server in London?, or are they spread out, up and down the country with say beeb Leeds etc.
thanks.
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
echomikeromeo Posted Jan 19, 2006
I can see, in part, the point about not keeping as extensive archives on the messageboards, but I think the archives are part of h2g2 culture, in a way. I love the fact that you can go back and see every post and every comment made since 1999. So if it's possible that a solution could avoid deleting the archives, that would put my mind at rest.
18 January, 2006: Server Problems
Jim Lynn Posted Jan 19, 2006
We're not considering touching the h2g2 archives. These discussions are focused on messageboards, particularly the busy/chatty ones, where a live archive of everything posted isn't very useful.
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- 43: the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish (Jan 19, 2006)
- 44: clzoomer- a bit woobly (Jan 19, 2006)
- 45: pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | (Jan 19, 2006)
- 46: BMT (Jan 19, 2006)
- 47: pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | (Jan 19, 2006)
- 48: 2221088 (Jan 19, 2006)
- 49: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Jan 19, 2006)
- 50: 2221088 (Jan 19, 2006)
- 51: Wilma Neanderthal (Jan 19, 2006)
- 52: BMT (Jan 19, 2006)
- 53: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Jan 19, 2006)
- 54: Jim Lynn (Jan 19, 2006)
- 55: Wilma Neanderthal (Jan 19, 2006)
- 56: Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. (Jan 19, 2006)
- 57: Wilma Neanderthal (Jan 19, 2006)
- 58: Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. (Jan 19, 2006)
- 59: echomikeromeo (Jan 19, 2006)
- 60: Jim Lynn (Jan 19, 2006)
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