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Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
~~Insomniac.Vampire~~ Posted Dec 18, 2003
Intern
Re: post 1751
did i say you was 'thick as theives'? dont think so, its of no concern to me who Vicky Virago is friends with but if you'd care to check those 2 links provided she has abused 2 researchers in this thread and told them both 'i' know her, which as i pointed out, unless she has other researcher names isnt true!
"i have no need to re read anything"
you jumped in and said Kow was trying to cause an argument, i think it only fair that you do go back and re-read the thread as your claiming your decisions to post what you did was based on 2 posts without reading what came prior, that is not enough reason to enter a thread and judge others, what you did was aid in the 'mobbing' of another researcher..another feature in the job description of an ace now is it? pre-judging researchers without prior knowledge of them cos you know the other person, judging and accusing them of trying to cause an argument based on 2 posts but 'you dont have to re-read whats already been posted' (presumably cos you are 'always right' being an ace)?, not defusing a mob by speaking to everyone else about what was going on but posting to Vicky Virago about Kow, (presumably cos you didnt bother to read anything other than 2 posts), i guess i must of missed the 'few well chosen' words (im referring there to the official rules, aces conduct)
"two or three said she wasnt the same person as kow thinks her to be"
there was a link posted prior to the 2 posts you could be bothered to read where Vicky Virago herself said she had changed names with another user
"he didnt sart the flameing could be true might not as well but he was more than happy to carry on trying to get more of a reaction from them"
and you surmised all this from reading 2 posts? you admit you havent read the backlog, yet you believe you are in a position to know exactly what is going on here, at least 3 people with at least 2 of them, in varying degree, abused him in this thread, are you sure your on the right page? how could you of missed all of that and accused him of causing trouble here? unbelievable!
what a credit you are to all the good aces!
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
~~Insomniac.Vampire~~ Posted Dec 18, 2003
Pheloxi
Re: post 1752
youve made friends on h2g2 - happy for you
as you respect and believe Vicky Virago 100% do you have any idea why she would be telling people i know her when i dont?
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Cahokia Posted Dec 18, 2003
house rules...check em out..
what they dont want anyone to see
A610390 Contents
A677261 Naughty Words
A677270 Links and URLs
A677289 Flames, Trolls, Abuse
A678170 The Law
A678558 Misc
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Andy Posted Dec 19, 2003
i have looked at them i.v if there was a problem with them why want they
yiked by some one unless aces are in the thread that they was in or even asked to yikes the page we cant be on our page and get a sixth sence that the rules are been broken some where els can we....
what i saw was the over spill onto here and kow posted they was one in the same i thought there was
argument starting on here so i attempted to head it off but i stand by the fact that i went with what i saw....
i head it off its not good enough for you
we leave it we are incompitant or burrieing our heads in the sand so what happy medium would you like me to find to keep you happy????
who is miss quoteing who i said i might have been unsubscribed at the point of what happend to kow i said that i would go back and have a look see what is what
what a credit you are to the aces
ahh very good little dig there...
pot calling the kettle ring any bells
for you at the moment
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
kow Posted Dec 19, 2003
Are you for real? Is this really the best that h2g2 has to offer. Backlog? Doesn't matter! Unsubscribing? Who gives a damn, all those newbies clog up my MP list and I do it all the time! Facts? What are they, just jump in and point the finger! Reading other people's posts? I'm too busy for that! But hey, we're friends.
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Vicki Virago - Proud Mother Posted Dec 19, 2003
OK - hang on a minute guys..
...I made a mis-understanding...I had thought that people were referring to my attempt at becoming an ACE - it obviously wasn't and I hav apologised to the people concerned - and I offer this to you too Kow.
I'd been accused of being someone else the day before and I had thought other people had thought the same....and - I apologise..
But what I would say is that bringing other links in without considering the whole thread as someone has earlier in the thread, is misconstrued....if the whole thread had been read, you would have seen that the thread was an attempt to cull what I read as bullying on the site...constant harrassment on an individual on here. This is where I had become het up and angered.
It DOES take a lot to anger me, but perhaps if people read my journal entries, they, perhaps, would understand a little as to why my reaction was how it was.
I would like to thank those friends who have come to my defense though...truly honourable, but perhaps we should leave things as they are now and not add more fire to an already inflamed situation.
My whole reasoning for commenting on this thread was to also add, what I thought, was a good idea to get things sorted. All that seemed to be happening here was everyone bickering amongst themselves, with nothing actually being done about the problem at hand. This seems as if it will never happen, but that is only my opinion.
IV - when I referred to your quest, I was talking to everyone in general, not just you.
Also, the inflaming of the sitiation on here didn't really help matters. I have explained my answer to you in another thread....and trust this is the end of the matter...
Once again, I offer my apologies to those to whom I have spoken out of tern too, although at the time I did feel it was justified.
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Loup Dargent Posted Dec 19, 2003
Ref: Posting 1764
>what they dont want anyone to see<
Cahokia...
If "they" didn't want anyone to see them, these entries would not be visible for all to read in the first place...
Oh and the links are already in post 1674 which is [or at least was last time i checked... like one minute ago] still visible... but for posting them again... that will save us some time going through the backlog to find them...
loup.dargent
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Loup Dargent Posted Dec 19, 2003
Something that kind of confuses me somehow...
While checking the backlog, I kept reading about Natalie having asked the Researchers contributing to this thread to let bygones be bygones etc.. but i can't seem to find the post where she _actually_ said that...
The only reference about the use of this expression by Natalie that i could find is in post 1450 and it reads:
>I actually think that letting bygones be bygones and deciding not to be drawn into a debate which has, at many points, been very critical of certain individuals, actually shows strength of character.<
Which was a reply to this comment:
<>
Can anyone give me some light on that subject?!...
loup.dargent
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
~~Insomniac.Vampire~~ Posted Dec 19, 2003
Intern
Re: post 1765
"i have looked at them i.v if there was a problem with them why want they yiked by some one"
you have looked at them? if there was a problem with them? well you should know you read them, didnt you? you said you did anyway..i would think since the postings all happened very fast there was no time to yikes anything, or perhaps as Natalie said she wanted to see what was being said, (well actually Natalie said a lot of things), or maybe some where on digibox and just trying to keep up but then again as you know those of us on digibox couldnt yikes anyway
"i thought there was argument starting on here so i attempted to head it off but i stand by the fact that i went with what i saw"
emphasis on the word 'thought' eh? what you actually did lets face it was aid in a 'mobbing', lets be clear about that at least..im glad you said you stand by what you saw..2 posts and you butted in and flamed a situation without having a clue what what was going on, you misjudged the situation, thought you knew best and made things worse, have you appologised to Kow by the way? (havent read anything past this post yet so i dont know)
"i head it off its not good enough for you"
what?? just act proper like an ace should, thats good enough for everyone
"who is miss quoteing who"
actually Intern you have misquoted nearly every post ive put in this thread that you've responded to, which makes me wonder if you are reading things properly or have some difficultys understanding what you read
"i said i would go back and have a look see what is what"
no in the post where you was responding to me, you said to me, you dont need to re read the thread again, infact if you said something different to Kow in the same post, you have contridicted yourself, i am meticulous when i 'quote' somebody as i am aware of the slander/libel laws, and i would urge you to be very careful when quoting somebody, check it again if you have to
"ahh very good little dig there"
if you was proud of the badge you hold and title and authority you believe go's with it, you would argue what i have said but feel ashamed of your actions, perhaps even make appologies and acknowledge you are in the wrong but as you didnt behave appropriately there is not much you can say except you believe you are in the right and stand by what you did and complain that i have made a dig at you
"pot calling the kettle ring any bells for you at the moment"
yes as a matter of fact it does, well done at least when you quote from Kows post, you actually get it right, word for word, must be just me you misquote
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
~~Insomniac.Vampire~~ Posted Dec 19, 2003
Vicy Virago - Or Is It?
Re: post 1767
"i made a mis-understanding"
yes you did, at least you are big enough to hold your hands up when you are at fault, though i suspect from what Kaz posted on here yesterday, due to your misunderstanding, she will not be back on this site for awhile so i doubt unless you have any outside contact with her she will see your appology
"id been accused of being someone else the day before"
but Vicky, you admitted you had changed names with Odo, though i dont know whether you actually changed your names in preference or you both went into each others account or even if it makes a difference, it is still against the house rules
"but what i would say is that bringing other links in without considering the whole thread as someone has earlier in the thread, is misconstrued.....if the whole thread had been read you would of seen that the thread was an attempt to cull what i read as bullying on this site, constant harassment on an individual on here. this is where i had become het up and angered"
lots of my links have been brought up in this thread, and they i feel have been placed in here purposely to rubbish my character and the validity of the claims i have made here, but even if they have been misconstrued and/or taken out of context, there isnt much i can do about that, i said what i said afterall..you say 'if the whole thread had been read', but Vicky you said yourself in here that you didnt read all of this thread yet you expect everyone to now read yours? i know all about constant harrassment though in fairness it has calmed down a bit since i brought the matter to the attention of everyone, perhaps whoever you are referring to should do the same
"all that seemed to be happening here was everyone bickering amongst themselves, with nothing being done about the problem at hand"
yes misunderstandings dont help a situation at all, since the beginning of this thread there has been more than a problem, many actually, and it seems perhaps appropriate to change the subject block as this thread does not only refer to aces, but staff and other researchers aswell
Vicky, yeah i read what you said on the other thread, i didnt realise you had posted in this thread before but even so, doesnt mean i know you, however, matters been clarified now
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
~~Insomniac.Vampire~~ Posted Dec 19, 2003
Loup
Re: post 1769
"which was reply to this comment"
that looks like 1 of my posts, though i suspect you know that anyway since you cut and paste it
what do you want to know? surely if youve read the backlog you can see why things were said where they were and why, if however, you want to quiz me on things i have said here previously then you know im going to have to go back and re-read whats there as it was said quite a while ago, you also know that'll take me awhile on digibox but i am here until around 2pm
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Andy Posted Dec 19, 2003
i.v
yeh i did read them when the link was
posted then you asked me to read them
if i remember correctly so please stop make it seem very underhand
yeh i weant by the infomation that was posted on here that was a missunderstanding apparantly but i didnt know about the other links till after the fact but im not going to appologise for telling a researcher to leave becouse it seemed like another researcher was wanting a argument
act proper eerrm i am im by not breaking the house rules on site and helping people..
the ones i missquoted a appologised for and said that it was a error on my part if you go back through the *back log* so trying to use that one again just aint cricket
ahh kow said that he was mobbed earlyer in the thread i told him/her thati could have been unsubscribed at that point i would go back and look
you on the other hand i dont need to go back and check the argument post between kow/vicky i think you will find
yeh i am very proud of my badge as it
happens bit of authority that goes with it what authority we have non we can...
1)yikes a post
1a)so can you so can the whole of the
community who use a computer
2)ask people not to do something in the regards to breaking the house rules
2a)you have asked me to leave a thread and not to missquote you
the only thingdifferent between a Ace
and researcher we get a ace forum every day other than that we are same
as you im the same as you we can not tell anyone not to do any thing that would be breaking the house rules
slander/libel
like i said before missquoteing you i
appologised for there was no intent to missquote you and i wasnt out to ruin your good name
altho makeing untrue/unfounded acusations of wrong doing by some aces without actually proveing behond
a shadow of a doubt ie including any links or relvent infomation to links to prove that any wrong doing is actually taken place
what we have is reasearchers claiming
wrong doing and miss deed`s from aces
so its a classic your word agaist aces and also your`s against management`s word of wrong doing
by the way i am re reading posts now before a post
aww shucks you even noted that i did something correctly
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Researcher 519175 Posted Dec 19, 2003
Reply to Jimster from post 1677
I have just now sent 6 emails as reply to the moderation on 6 post hidden.
The simple answer is, if just a link is posted few people bother to look, they prefer to blame others for what they have done to break the house rules.
As was demonstrated yesterday, here it is with content, to quote:
"Actually Supersonic - I don't have 2 accounts - myself and Odo thought it would be a good idea to swap names, then have the same name to confuse a couple of our friends." F1672119?thread=357672&skip=53
A clear breach of the house rules.
It showed the kind of conduct somebody that has show an interest joining the ACE group. There is no question of identidy:-
Odo is U192764 as Odo - Yes, it really is!
Vicky is U205101 as Vicki Virago - Or is it?
One is sure of identity, and the other is not sure who they are!
The fact is to impersonate another researcher is against the house rules.
Then so is spamming... F74015?thread=359393&latest=1#p4570432 and F105534?thread=359390&latest=1#p4570423 yet another breaking of the house rules....
---------------------------
Hi < person to be spammed >
Listen - I am genuinly trying to help a situation remedy itself, and you're coming in and throwing dis-repute on my identity doesn't help matters
IV knows who I am and has come across me before, as have a lot of people on hootoo
If you'd bothered to look - myself and Odo have completely different friends and threads on the go.
Don't you dare tarnish me with the same brush that others are tarnished with on this site!!!!!
I was truly trying to help the situation, and your confrontation doesn't help matters!!!!!!!
--------------------------------
A fine example of ACE conduct followed with the mob attack on kow, despite bebing told it was not him that posted the link in the first place.
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Jab [Since 29th November 2002] Posted Dec 19, 2003
Re: Post: 1768 loup
"What they don't wamt you to see"
Best take that as a phrase to mean "What was forgotten about"
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
Jab [Since 29th November 2002] Posted Dec 19, 2003
simulpost... Hey thats on my space F105534?thread=359390&latest=1#p457042 "Gerrr-off my land!"
Regarding The Aces Code Of Conduct
LocalisedGirl Posted Dec 19, 2003
what a waste of 70 msg spaces!!!
firstly, VV may be a great person, but is there any need to fill the thread with ur views on what she is like in person? im sure she knows what a good friend u r, but if ppl disagree with a comment they r not slandering u personnally, so y the defences? back up ur posts but no need to get friends in here tellin us all how much of a wonderful person u r....to be honest, i dont care whos a good friend in ere, i dont know u so no need to care, so how about just commenting on the points rather than the defences like that.
boxing babboon
i really wish u would say sumthing constructive for once
Intern
maybe if u read posts properly n understood them before u post ur reply, then the response u get wont be negative n quote u wrong (in their opinion b4 u jump at me)
most of us in this thread have posted sum very beneficial posts n links, the idea here is to debate, not argue or take it personnally
be honest tho, most of u r in here for the look, all i see is strange ppl bookmarkin, making stupid comments (i.e babboon) and people comin in sayin "oh leave my friend alone shes nice etc", wasting space n time for all in here as it takes the focus of the point n gettin ppl lost in the backlog.
if u have nothin constructive to say, dont post, or post sumwhere else, ppl r sayin lets get this sorted but how when all this time n space is bein wasted, then maybe it will take the stress n frustration off
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- 1764: Cahokia (Dec 18, 2003)
- 1765: Andy (Dec 19, 2003)
- 1766: kow (Dec 19, 2003)
- 1767: Vicki Virago - Proud Mother (Dec 19, 2003)
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- 1770: Little Miss- Get well soon Kylie.XXX (Dec 19, 2003)
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- 1772: Star Fleet... (Dec 19, 2003)
- 1773: ~~Insomniac.Vampire~~ (Dec 19, 2003)
- 1774: Vicki Virago - Proud Mother (Dec 19, 2003)
- 1775: ~~Insomniac.Vampire~~ (Dec 19, 2003)
- 1776: Andy (Dec 19, 2003)
- 1777: Researcher 519175 (Dec 19, 2003)
- 1778: Jab [Since 29th November 2002] (Dec 19, 2003)
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