h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

I found your thesis and recommendations most interesting indeed. I also enjoyed your most amusing lessons in NOO YOWK speak. Can't wait for the next installment.
I just wanted to share these few personal observations with you.
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"To do is to be" - Rousseau
"To be is to do" - Satre
"do-be-do-be-do" - Sinatra
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Does this mean that when Frank Sinatra sang "Doobry, Doobry, Do" he was referring to Saturdays?
One other thing (and I don't mean Thursdays) - If we do change the name, what would things (I mean real things) be called?
For instance, it would be a tad incongruent to say to someone who is upset, "Is there some thursday bothering you?" or
Asking for some practical assitance by saying, "Pass me that thursday over there, please!"
Another thursday, I mean another thing (you've got me at it now). . . . does wibble fall in the middle of the week? I always assumed the start of the week was Sodit. In which case, wibble becomes Wimpy, and thing wibble, poets thing and so on.
In the final analysis, I think Mondays will always feel like Mondays despite calling them by a different name. Think of Dontbry's in the UK and you'll know what I'm getting at.
Still, I think you're onto some-thing and we should perhaps designate a Thursday as the official re-naming ceremony. However, I just don't fancy being around should this invoke the rage of Thor, the jealous keeper and personification of this sacred day.
Good luck with the rest of your campaign.
So long.

Where to start?

Well I always thought that starting the wek on a Sunday was to be honest a wee bit screwy. The week-END is the end of the week. Sunday is the last day of the week end, ergo Sunday is the last day of the week. Monday is therefore the start of the week so you are quite correct Sodit is the start with Wibble falling in the middle and Thing the day after that.

As the the epistemological problem of what do we call proper-name "things", if T****day is redesignated such, thus I presume stealing away in your mind a much common-used pro-noun? Well I don't see this to be too much of a problem. There are, after all, plenty of other word people can surpant in their ordinary speech when memory is lacking. Doo-hicky, Thingamagummy, whatdjamakallit, whoojamaflips. the list is, quite possibly, endless. And besides we manage to use words that have like their, there and they're without any difficulty. Having a day of the week named Thing ought not to necesitate re-addressing all uses of "thing" to reflect that one day.

And as for Thor? Mere personification of a natural force. *ducks down in case Ottox hears him.*
*stands back up again, dusts off jacket* Primitive nature worship. *cracks knuckles*
His day is merely the relic of an outmoded belief system. *feeling more confident*
*checks over shoulder just to make sure a obliterating lightning bolt of divine origins isn't headed for the back of his head.*

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told you so.

CRASH! BOOM!!!! FZZZT!

Clive Well Whady'aknow!?!

Geez, with Ottox you'd think it was some sort of personal insult to rename the days of the week...

~Amy, who actually attempted to reason with Ottox about the whole ordeal one time...

You put your case across most convincingly. But if it's not a daft question, what really motivates you and your ilk to want to change the names of the week, or for that matter, Thursdays in particular. What are your aims? Do you think it would subtely (or grossly?) tranform behaviour and perceptions, and make life more pleasant or, in some unfortunate cases, more bearable? Why not campaign for a shorter week or
Will its implementation be of relevance to everyone, I wonder? Doesn't your campaign overlook those who are horologically challenged, on the dole, or belong to an indigenous tribe - where either one day tends to roll into another, or where the passage of time is marked by the cycles of the sun, moon and stars.
This latter "animistic" pagan mindset is surely what animates the world, keeps it in motion, and bestows a sense of purpose and responsibility. This brings us back to the thorny matter of the God Thor. Rather than "a relic of an outmoded belief system," I think it's our collective disregard of the Gods, and our subsequent secular, humanistic concerns, that have regimented our lifestyles, making many of us feel out of touch with the rhythms of the planet. But I digress somewhat. I think we need to recover the Gods and to reclaim our common heritage, placing Thor back on the throne as rightful ruler of Thursdays.
Your campaign, and the disillusionment with the predictable and mundane state of things, seems symptomatic of a loss of a belief system that has its roots in nature. The planet Earth is rapidly deteriorating in front of our very eyes due to human self-interest and vanity. In this context, without recovering the Gods, it is difficult to envision (much as I'd like to) a significant difference to the welfare of the planet by such actions as changing the names for the days of the week. The words - Titanic, deckchairs, rearranging, spring to mind. Your friend Ottox has much wisdom it seems, and I would be interested to hear what you both have to say on these brief reflections.

Wibble!

We are . We have fun. We ARE NOT SERIOUS.

Geez, you guys. Whew!

see, ya use the big words against em and suddenly they just dont want to compete... oh well, i was gonna suggest they make one of the days "fudd" but i guess not

and another thing. i think we should think of the week as a piece of string, therefore it has two ends, saturday and sunday. because if you said monday was the beginning and sunday was the end you cant very well go on saying saturday is part fo the weekend

I think of it like a line of sqaures ebnt into a big circle ( a bit like the wheel of fortune, No really !) The different segments light up but Sunday is the end of the line and Monday is the start again.

You put your case across most convincingly. But if it's not a daft question, what really
motivates you and your ilk to want to change the names of the week, or for that matter,
Thursdays in particular.

What are your aims? Do you think it would subtely (or grossly?) tranform behaviour and perceptions, and make life more pleasant or, in some unfortunate cases, more bearable?

Why not campaign for a shorter week or Will its implementation be of relevance to everyone, I wonder? Doesn't your
campaign overlook those who are horologically challenged, on the dole, or belong to
an indigenous tribe - where either one day tends to roll into another, or where the
passage of time is marked by the cycles of the sun, moon and stars.

. This brings us back to
the thorny matter of the God Thor.

Rather than "a relic of an outmoded belief system,"
I think it's our collective disregard of the Gods, and our subsequent secular,
humanistic concerns, that have regimented our lifestyles, making many of us feel out
of touch with the rhythms of the planet. But I digress somewhat. I think we need to
recover the Gods and to reclaim our common heritage, placing Thor back on the
throne as rightful ruler of Thursdays.

Your campaign, and the disillusionment with the predictable and mundane state of
things, seems symptomatic of a loss of a belief system that has its roots in nature.
The planet Earth is rapidly deteriorating in front of our very eyes due to human
self-interest and vanity. In this context, without recovering the Gods, it is difficult to
envision (much as I'd like to) a significant difference to the welfare of the planet by
such actions as changing the names for the days of the week. The words - Titanic,
deckchairs, rearranging, spring to mind. Your friend Ottox has much wisdom it
seems, and I would be interested to hear what you both have to say on these brief
reflections.

I'm not afraid of big words.

Oh well...if I must....


What motivates us? This whole idea was mine, I confess. I was drunk, Thursday was the first one to come to mind and I wanted to do away with the slavish "X" + day format and "Thing" was...well I don't know what it was. call it inspiration if you want but that was that.. So I changed it. A small band of like minded fellow drifted by and thought the idea was rather nifty and so the Thingite cause was born.

Our Aims? "Seminally, to have the day formally known as Thursdays re-designated "Thing", of course
Read the back log on the No,no,no thread and you'll see that our revolutionary zeal has somewhat evaporated into hey just hangin' out with out infinite-- dispenser

Do I hope to transform behaviour and perceptions and make life more bearable? Hmmm, well I don't know about you guys, but I am having fun

Why not campaign for a shorter week? We actually did attract a cult of 8th Day Inventist, who aside from adopting the Thingite Day-Planner also sought to add an extra day. (Fudd, maybe you could lobby them?)
Is this relevant to everyone? No, I would have thought that is obvious.

"This latter "animistic" pagan mindset is surely what animates the world, keeps it in
motion, and bestows a sense of purpose and responsibility"

You think? I confess it, I'm a humanist at heart, with both feet planted firmly on the ground. So my money is one gravity for that one

Which brings me neatly onto Thor. If I am to nail my flag to the post then I declare my humanist colours but far from restricting our lives or regimenting them, I believe this has set us free. I am free for the actions I choose to take and I stand to those moments and their consequences as an author to my own life. If I so wished I could seek out the 'rhythm of the planet' if I so choose I could choose to follow those who believe in Thor or any other belief system for that matter. We can still recover the gods (We already have one of our own! http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/U110315) I he can have Thursday if he wants it, just don't expect us to call it anything but Thing!

I'm not dissillusioned. I just have too much free time!

Thus we do not really seek to convert the masses (but the masses are welcome to join in if they like.) and we aren't trying to make a difference to anything but declaring the principles of our Manifesto. Gods or no Gods.

"Titanic deckchair arranging." ?

Yup, I would subscribe to that. So why not pull one up, relax a little and everyone can stop being so *tense*

Clive *chillin'*

Shea ... very ... Wibble ... You go, Clive ...

*pats Shea's head and directs Lycaon away from her ... *

Poor hairless Lycaon ...

Awww... *sympathy*

Refer post 6.
OK Clive, I admit I was a bit gladitorial, but to dismiss the Gods as just superstitious nonsense needed to be challenged. The titanic analogy was deliberate. Let me explain, if I may.
As architects of hubris -unmitigated pride, grandiosity and sacrilege-the Titans, a race of giants, were banished by the Olympian Gods to the underworld. The myth suggests that identification with the Titanic tendency results in a heady power-trip followed by certain descent. When the "Titanic" was named, nobody took the mythology seriously. What's in a name? Indeed. The Titanic was declared "unsinkable" and, with a great deal of "flying in the face of the Gods" (the ship's captain ignored iceberg warnings and, fueled by an unofficial attempt on the Atlantic crossing record, tragedy struck). In identifying with Titanism, backs were turned on the Gods, the Furies, and the Fates. There could only be one possible outcome.. . .
Incidentally, Titanic's sister ship "The Olympic," in spite of an almost identical build, sailed steadily past her sibling's fate without infamy.
I'm not inferring your campaign is doomed but, as the above story illustrates, without some recognition of the Gods (Thor, for instance - and someone has to stick up for old-fashioned belief systems) your case for changing the days of the week, in my opinion, "skates on thin ice".
This has been an exercise in attempting to take humour seriously.
Sorry I couln't provide you with something more light-hearted.
Nevertheless, I drink to your creativity.

Hmmm I did push to ol' God's Pah! angle didn't I? sorry about that.

The Campaign, I underline once again ISN'T SERIOUS and I didn't mean to offend any dieties who may be thematically tied to the day-names and I *certainly* didn't do it as an excerice in atheism and I didn't mean to attack the 'old ways' (for desparate want of a better phrase.) Would you be so kind as to furnish me with some more details, about why the days are so named. I might be moved to add a footnote to the Manifesto. That should get me off the hook with the Gods and then, maybe, Ottox, yourself and Fudd.. )

Clive

Interesting idea, Clive! Put our reasons for naming the days up, next to the original reasons for naming the days of the week! See which one makes more sense!

Spin

I've got a great line of bull, if you're interested ...

No s**t?