h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

"From the evidence promiscuity is often a reaction to sexual abuse, but I would tend to believe that it is one of the less healthy ones"
promiscuity being a "human" description to a animilistic instint ,one would hardly describe the fruit fly or rabbit as this.Or the cuckoo as a unresponsible parent?


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As to we enjoy it may well be we have more time to partake these "gratifications" as to wether they are "sinfull/detrimental"
to our physical or emotional growth will be decided by our "family" group ,several of our cultures suriveing for thousands of years along "commumne" type societys .Only outsides influences have decimated them !

Leading onto mel brookes oops freudian slip mel gibson passion of christ ,No advertiseing is bad advertiseing
seems to me Catholics V Jews again both sides equilly and both just as guilty of the "crimes" they are acuseing each other of!

problem with weirdness Heck: back to basic evonlutiony therory only way change can occur ,diversity or what the masses describe as weird
is the only surival tool for the human race?

"I don't think that there is a part of the human race that hasn't performed some gross cruelty or other and I think the Jews are totally over-reacting, at least those demonstrating are."

Hi, Vix. I don't know whether or not it's true, but I think I read an article in a sunday paper which stated that the Gibson film plays fast and loose with the Biblical accounts by having Jesus killed by the Jews. If that's so, it will remind the Jews immediately of a part of their history in 18th-19th century Eastern Europe where the predominant semi-literate Catholic population used the excuse of blaming the Jews for the death of Jesus for progroms. This ties in with other myths about Jews in Western Europe and may have contributed to the attitude in Germany, but I don't know enough about the social myths circulating at that time in that country to tell.

In any case, if it is true, there's no reason to change the story if one is purporting to make an historical film. The Jews of the Roman period in the province of Judea did not have the power to pass a death sentence, which could only be passed by the Roman Prefect. This doesn't quite explain why the prefect of the time passed the death sentence for a religious crime, but Pilate did have a somewhat bloody (and therefore not terribly satisfactory history as an adminstrator) reputation and jedea was undeniably a very difficut province to govern.

"'Nuns, virgins, and spinsters'. Rigoni-Stern and cervical cancer revisited:
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"Present Department of Health policy regarding provision of cervical screening suggests that such screening is not necessary for 'nuns, virgins, and spinsters' (Warden 1990)."

Alji, from what I've read on this subject it appears that the incidence of cervical cancer is increased by the number of male sexual partners a woman has. This, in turn, appears to be a reflection of a more direct correlation between hygiene and sex. In other words, the less clean the penis, and the higher the number of acts with very unwashed penises, the higher the risk of cervical cancer.

This doesn't necessarily preclude nuns etc as, AFAIK, this is just one thing which increases risk; its absence does not preclude incidence of cancer.

"'Nuns, virgins, and spinsters'... spinsters' (Warden 1990)."

Oh yes, and what is that thing about 'spinsters'??? Is someone equating the state of not being married with no sexual activity?? In 1990?????????????????????????????

"Query: This whole area wouldn't be your professional interest by any chance would it"

Not mine, sweetheart - but that of my partner's younger daughter, who runs a team of family psychiatrists specialising in treating disturbed children.

But I have long held an amateur interest about the effects of childhood abuse, emotional/physical damage and borderline psychology.

"If he hadn't withdrawn the hypothysis, and had fought his corner I would have had more time for him and we might have made some useful headway in the treatment of mental illness."

If he had stood his ground we might have accepted the prevalence of incest 100 years earlier than we did, which might have made a significant difference to a number of children, the way Children's Homes are run and the success of the Roman Catholic Church.

Methodist childrens did not fare much better.But then any "state" run organisation includeing "religous" as most religons are based
on "heaven/earth" a sense of belonging!

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Something else, though I'm not quite sure what. It just seems to make sence. I'll get back to you later. I have too much homework to talk now.

OK, Heathern Skeptic, I admit that I could certainly be weirder.

But my point of view on its own is rather weird. As is the fact that I actually like science, unlike most of the kids at my school.

Heathen Skeptic:

I was responding to stoneageman's post to the effect that everyone who has had sex will always want more. If he was right, one would conclude that sex is addictive.

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I'll get back to you. I have homeqwork and this backlog is getting rediculous.

Hilarious - not! Would you say the same of Sherlock Holmes, or Ghandi? (BTW - didn't people make all sorts of allegations against him? Is that also okay, or is it only Christians who are fair game for silly snide remarks?)

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That's exactly my point! Because emotions are involved (or should be) people can get very hurt, by their partner's being randy and insensitive. Even the 'slappers', the girls who "spread it about" to use a term common at my school, were often girls with problems of previous abuse, and self esteem problems. Flinging themselves at boys and men, provided only temporary relief from self hate. Unmarried and uncommitted sex can be recreation for one partner, and something else for the other - and she has to conceal her feelings, and her hurt and sometimes hatred, when the boy she hoped would come to care for her, says something like "oh, you silly cow, it was just physical." I would venture to suggest that an experience like that has been had at least once by every girl and some boys, born in the 20th century!

Hmm you're very protective aren't you?

I notice you have a strongly feminist attitude, although I appreciate that if experiences of men have been bad for you then even the qualifier "some boys" was a positive effort. Honestly I'm not sure how bad the problems of abuse or being used are in terms of frequency, but I think you are probably overshooting.

Having said that, I personally would find it very hard to separate sex and emotional ties in my mind. It is often sad the ways things go between people, although I cannot see how it could be prevented. I suspect in past times things were just more undercover.

If there are people who can entirely divorce sex from emotional attachment, then they are the people to feel the most sorry for in my opinion.

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I don't find it unhappy.

. Even the 'slappers', the girls who "spread it about"
These are labels given in many cases by "prudeish" thats a nice word
dont suppose it stems from (pro-rude) lobby ?The polynesian islands along with the hawaian isles changed dramaticly once the Europeans found those "paradises" and imposed western ideals on a society that had prospered for more than 2000 years.

Boys and Girls in the 20/21 centuary are far more both liberated and protected now than in for example the victorian era when it was not uncommen for "servents" to be considered property ,and a child born to such a person often a "basterd child" would have no rights either.

Hi, Lem. I notice that you're jailbait anyway in the USA. That makes some issues a tad academic. Have you ever heard of 'cognitive dissonance'?

toxx

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There's been a heaping helping of publicity here about the movie, previews, reviews, and commentary, and no, what you read in your Sunday paper *isn't* true. The film does no such thing.
The issue here has swiftly switched from anti-semitism (real or alleged) to the pronography of violence. Here in NZ, it has an R16 rating, *much* higher than nextdoor in Australia. It's totally unsuitable for children, and most adults, because of graphic violence, say the newspapers and the radio people. I have no intention of going to see it, I go to the cinema only for Star Trek, all else must wait for the DVD...
But I think the anti-semitism accusation is just what would be called here "a media beat-up"...

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I have come across people who purport to be able to, and I would agree with you, about them being the ones to feel sorry for.
I know that in the time of my mother's and mother-in-law's generation (1930s-50s)people got up to much the same things as now, they just kept very, very quiet... Also, I presume fewer people *did* indulge so to speak, in extra-marital activities.
I have come across a couple of boys who were devastated by encounters their partner saw as more casual than the boy thought... sadly, I didn't meet such boys when I was a girl, only now - but seeing boys as rounded people and not just desirable authority figures, as I was brought up to do, would have helped so much when I were a lass!

If there are people who can entirely divorce sex from emotional attachment, then they are the people to feel the most sorry for in my opinion::

Most great lovers will have the ability to do this as only when we can see from the outside in so to speak can we see any effect our actions are haveing on anything.It is a result of confuseing sex with
the catalist or emotion called love that makes it "hurt".

A great chef need not have superior taste buds to enjoy food but they will help, likewise if you abstain from sex/love the true meaning will be lost from lack of expearience.

extra-marital activities::Every generation gets up to it but in the class system along with some views that sex with a "professional" or
lady of the street would not be looked upon as infidelity,not forgeting the hangover from the Victorian Era re arranged marrage more prevelent by the class system which was finished by the two world wars, leaveing the following generations to set todays standerds so to speak.