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Crossed Purposes:November 2001
Kes Posted Nov 24, 2001
I vote for Weihnachtsstollen all round! For my good friends here!
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Researcher 168814 Posted Nov 24, 2001
*Goes and gets a box, to collect the ballots...*
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mari-rae(tee reads: (entangled in cardboard boxes, please send tape...) Posted Nov 25, 2001
*Pours Englander a 
*
No 
for me, please. It looks way too yummy. I think I must have gained 10 pounds over the last three days, and the weekend isn't over yet!!! 
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Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde Posted Nov 25, 2001
HEY!!!.... did you put in a chocolate milk vote for me!??
And one for Sophie and a third for Plato.
What!?? No, they really would vote for it, too!!!
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Kasia, P.S. of Syncopation,Muse of Classic Goo Fans, Keeper of Rainbows, Zaphodista (visit Crossed Purposes Pub: A429310) Posted Nov 25, 2001
Kes, thx a lot 
Mmmm, Christmasstollen... 
I love it.. Engländer may I have a piece??
I had a look at your conversation about democracy - very interesting, indeed..
In Poland democracy is very young - no more then 12 years (I'm counting the time after WW2) and - the same as a child it's making crazy things... We all are learning to get used to it, but some of our politicians misunderstand the meaning of it..
For example.. we had elections in September..and my folks voted for the post-communistic party. That's not, what is bothering me.. but at the 3rd place there was a party, which is only shouting: we are against, but they don't have any propositions, how to change things, people don't agree with. And why?? Because the leader has Charisma...He says very popular things, people are happy, but they don't see that's in fact nothing will change... Well, maybe everyman must make his own mistakes, as there isn't any other way to develope...
As for me... I'm happy, I live in a democracy now, many things has changed, but as for politics... well, we need another 10 years to understand the meaning of it... It's a growing-up
Uff! Now I would love to have another Irish , please...
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Researcher 168814 Posted Nov 25, 2001
Here you are Kasia... one piece of Christmasstollen...
Isn´t it fascinating how quickly West-Germany turned democratic after WW2??? I think we could put a little more trust into the "New Democracies" if you remember how quickly the place over here was integrated..
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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Nov 25, 2001
"forbiding rightwing propaganda", Engländer? But that is impossible if you want democracy.
The moment democracy tries to defend itself with undemocratic rules it is already dead! 
Yes, Kasia, I agree. Democracry must be learned. And it is not done over night. In fact, it seems it takes more than a hundred years:
A few years back I watched a tv-series where one of Denmarks finest tv-historians told us Denmarks history. He said something like this: "King Harald Bluetooth claimed he had christened all danes. Yet we have found evidence that viking-churches were still built 100 years after his death. So I think it is fair to assume that christianity did not come to Denmark over night".
It's the same with democracy. We still encounter people who actually want to sack other people for saying what they believe!
Some say freedom of speech is essential for democracy.
I say: Freedom of speech IS democracy!
God the air is dry in here today. Can I have an 
please?
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Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde Posted Nov 25, 2001
Poor Danes... why must the Christians go about imposing their beliefs on others!?? I have a big problem with that. Religion is a very personal thing.
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Kes Posted Nov 25, 2001
Personal, yes ...but also collective ... yes, it is hard to agree on something as part of a group, but not seek to impose it on others.
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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Nov 25, 2001
*Drinks several non-political * Thanks, Kes 
Religion is not the issue here, MsD. Most of the danes are not religious, but ged wed in churches, christen their children and go to church on christmas eve anyway, because that is our tradition (count me out, though - I do neither)
Democracy affects everyone though!
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Researcher 168814 Posted Nov 25, 2001
You can be surprised how religion can effect us, too 
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Kes Posted Nov 26, 2001
...and when religion and politics get together ...watchout!
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Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde Posted Nov 26, 2001
Very true!!!
::Sophie looks scared::
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Researcher 168814 Posted Nov 26, 2001
Hey, is the smiley of the day, D?
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Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde Posted Nov 26, 2001
Maybe.... 
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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Nov 26, 2001
I just had a brief discussion about that in my space: http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/F32210?thread=151433 - if you are interested My smiley for the day is
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Bluebottle Posted Nov 26, 2001
I don't have a smiley for the day
<BB<
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Researcher 168814 Posted Nov 26, 2001
Here. Take this one: oops... not available (yet 
)
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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Nov 26, 2001
Weren't you the one trying to get a -smiley, E? 
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Crossed Purposes:November 2001
- 261: Kes (Nov 24, 2001)
- 262: Researcher 168814 (Nov 24, 2001)
- 263: mari-rae(tee reads: (entangled in cardboard boxes, please send tape...) (Nov 25, 2001)
- 264: Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde (Nov 25, 2001)
- 265: Kasia, P.S. of Syncopation,Muse of Classic Goo Fans, Keeper of Rainbows, Zaphodista (visit Crossed Purposes Pub: A429310) (Nov 25, 2001)
- 266: Researcher 168814 (Nov 25, 2001)
- 267: Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ (Nov 25, 2001)
- 268: Kes (Nov 25, 2001)
- 269: Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde (Nov 25, 2001)
- 270: Kes (Nov 25, 2001)
- 271: Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ (Nov 25, 2001)
- 272: Researcher 168814 (Nov 25, 2001)
- 273: Kes (Nov 26, 2001)
- 274: Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde (Nov 26, 2001)
- 275: Researcher 168814 (Nov 26, 2001)
- 276: Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde (Nov 26, 2001)
- 277: Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ (Nov 26, 2001)
- 278: Bluebottle (Nov 26, 2001)
- 279: Researcher 168814 (Nov 26, 2001)
- 280: Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ (Nov 26, 2001)
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