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sea - logging on from w*rk - using alab*ster BLECH! Posted Aug 7, 2002
to you too, d'E! i simply meant that it was 3am when i /started/ writing. it may or may not have been 4am when i stopped to check what was happening at h2g2.
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Amy the Ant - High Manzanilla of the Church of the Stuffed Olive Posted Aug 7, 2002
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Munchkin Posted Aug 8, 2002
[Munchkin, never gets to dress up like a princess at any age]
Had some fun thunderstorms last night, in between which I watched Open Your Eyes, the Spanish original of Vanilla Sky. Its really odd to watch, as the new film is almost identical. Therefore it was different actors (other than Penelope Cruz) speaking in a differnet language but doing the exact same things, other than a few small points. I'm not sure, but I feel the original is better, for those few small points. I'd recommend it rightly.
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dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC Posted Aug 8, 2002
I don't understand the desire of Hollywood to spend millions of dollars on making exact duplicates of other movies. The remake of Psycho is another example. Even though the remake was shot-for-shot the same as Hitchcock's classic, I didn't like it.
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Titania (gone for lunch) Posted Aug 8, 2002
I like it even less when Hollywood makes not too exact duplicates, making the copy a bit less colourful and a bit more Hollywood shallow...
...like '3 man and a baby' - I prefer the original French version any time!
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Coniraya Posted Aug 8, 2002
{[caer csd]*being driven half mad by that irritating click when using the mouse or conversation drop-down list*
Pearl Harbour is another film that is very much inferior in its remake version.
Now going to see if I can remember how to turn that 'click' off }
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dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC Posted Aug 8, 2002
Easy - use Netscape (or even better, Mozilla (or still better yet, abandon Windows)).
I think sometimes a remake can be better although I'm hard pressed to think of one that is right now. The key is if something interesting and original is added. Simply copying the first with new actors is dull; I don't care what Borges says.
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Aug 8, 2002
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sad at departure of cyber-family, recovering also, and about to tackle various stacks of tasks and backlog
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marvthegrate LtG KEA Posted Aug 8, 2002
El Mariachi and it's Tarrentino sequel Desparado are a pair of good examples of when an american studio does it right. Desparado is not a remake, but takes over where El Marachi more or less leaves off.
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Munchkin Posted Aug 8, 2002
On that one I agree, but the director was the same in both which helps. I think, if you are going to do a re-make then at least try to add some new stuff to it. But if you are going to change it, at least ensure the changes make sense. The changes from Open Your Eyes to Vanilla Sky were mostly explanation, the new version explains things a lot more, rather than giving the audience something to puzzle over.
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Munchkin Posted Aug 8, 2002
Oh, and just to annoy those of you who like a pint or two, I'm off to the Great British Beer Festival tomorrow. The worlds biggest pub with over seven hundred different beers and only ten hours in which to try them If I can remember anything I shall report with my recommendations next week.
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FG Posted Aug 8, 2002
*wonders if anyone remembers the tripe that was The Man with One Red Shoe*
Any opinions on the American remakes of British television shows? It started with All in the Family and Three's Company in the states. I'm not sure how many we have co-opted, but I'll bet it's a lot.
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Amy the Ant - High Manzanilla of the Church of the Stuffed Olive Posted Aug 8, 2002
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Montana Redhead (now with letters) Posted Aug 8, 2002
where do i start, fg? who wants to be a millionaire? well, sure, who wouldn't want a million bucks, but not by prostituting myself to regis philbin! weakest link....after a bit, she got old, didn't she? yeah, there are lots of tv remakes. for a while, the redo of whose line is it anyway was pretty good....i always did like ryan stiles. but for the most part, no.
and as for movies, the absolute worst remake had to be la femme nakita, with briget fonda in the lead role. the original was dark, edgy, and man, did she kick booty. the remake was trite, gun-oriented twaddle. not to mention they added a happy ending! that really burns me up. i mean, if you are going to remake a movie, keep the plot intact, at least!
and while i know it isn't a remake (although it has the feel of one, doesn't it), and at the risk of being lambasted, i have to say the stupidest "artistic" movie i have ever had the sad misfortune to see was eyes wide shut. could someone please explain why that movie ever got made in the first place?!?!?!?
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marvthegrate LtG KEA Posted Aug 8, 2002
Red, I feel much the same way about "Mullholland Drive" as you do about Kubrick's last.
Munchers, ift a pint of some good for me please.
I saw the original La femme nakita the other day. That was a great flick.
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Montana Redhead (now with letters) Posted Aug 8, 2002
i know....anne palliard (spelling?) kicks butt. and the whole scene with her and catherine deneuve (spelling again?) just oh, man. and you believe that this woman can be a cold blooded killer....briget fonda, not so much.
i haven't seen mulholland drive yet. i tend to let lynch films stew a bit before watching them. or wait til they come on the cheap cable channels!
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