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soeasilyamused, or sea Posted Nov 29, 2000
there, there, dear. easy now. i don't approve of it either.
did i mention that i found out i'm part american indian?
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Uncle Heavy [sic] Posted Nov 29, 2000
Sorry, I thought thanksgiving was some kind of barstardised Christmas. I'm part lithuanian, as it happens. Should you care.
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So Long and Thanks for all the Fish(Deceased) Posted Nov 29, 2000
why is it that us Europians always feel compelled to find a country kill every one then setle there, I can never work it out
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soeasilyamused, or sea Posted Nov 29, 2000
we have christmas too... it's a separate holiday.
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So Long and Thanks for all the Fish(Deceased) Posted Nov 29, 2000
oh fine ignore me
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soeasilyamused, or sea Posted Nov 29, 2000
i thought it better not to comment, since i'm not european and therefore wouldn't know.
but if you want my hypothesis on the issue, it may be because the world is run by men, and when men get bored, they go out and break/conquer/steal/create things.
but then, that's just my opinion.
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Uncle Heavy [sic] Posted Nov 29, 2000
Or shag things. Don't forget the shagging.
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Lord Byancbaldich a.k.a. Ancba, posting as Flopsy the Catrabbit coz he's in the Unknown Regions Posted Nov 29, 2000
The Chiss usually follow that pattern. Though we always convince a species to allow us to live there, when we can. Convincing someone makes them let you. Slaughtering someone makes them resent you.
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So Long and Thanks for all the Fish(Deceased) Posted Nov 29, 2000
so it's basically us males get bored so we kill stuff?
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Yowuzupman- New Top Speed 122 (thats mph you metric fools) Posted Nov 29, 2000
I actually prefer to drive really fast and then to wined down either: Blow something up, burn something, or play some computer game
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So Long and Thanks for all the Fish(Deceased) Posted Nov 29, 2000
really? well good for you
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NYC Student - The innocent looking one =P Posted Nov 30, 2000
I'd have to say that it is NOT in fact a male thing, but specifically a European thing. Not even all Europeans, per se, but Northern and Western Europeans. No other society has such a rampant patriarchy and religious dogmatism. No other country in the world made such an extensive system of colonialism, imperialism, and 'Manifest Destiny'. In fact, every other world spent all their time advancing the arts, the sciences, and culture (where do you think the Renaissance originated from?), to their eventual demise (since the Europeans spent the last 2000 years finding new ways to bash each other's skulls in...).
...and for all intensive purposes, the USA is considered a European country.
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HappyDude Posted Nov 30, 2000
balls its a world thing - its just that in recent times (historicaly speaking) the Europeans had better weapons technolage so they were more successful. But were the Mongals European ? Were the Zulus (Who had carved out a very nice Empire for themselves until they met the Europeans) European ? And What about Easter Island where the tribes fought each other so much that they wiped themselves out, and Finaly were the Aztecs European ? I could go on but I think you get the point.
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soeasilyamused, or sea Posted Nov 30, 2000
[sea] i STILL maintain that it's a male thing.
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HappyDude Posted Nov 30, 2000
Well the thing is males have used the higher physical strength to maintain a dominant role in socitey up until recently, which has ment the female being kept off the battlefild - however those few that have made it proved very successful Joan of Arc, Boadica etc.
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NYC Student - The innocent looking one =P Posted Nov 30, 2000
men have the muscular physique BECAUSE they fight. Men fighted, women cared for children. That was the general idea for roles. However, in terms of Mongols, Zulus, Japanese, Aztecs, and such, at least they knew something else BESIDES war!
The Japanese are and have always be much cleanlier and health oriented than the Europeans. The Aztecs developed a great calender system, established public works and governed huge tracks of lands jutting all over South America, built highways through SA, and developed stepped farming techniques to higher distances. They outdid the Spanish lifespan by more than 20 years!
The only contribution the Europeans had to technology and medicine was what they got from the Chinese! SOMEHOW no other country seemed to be having these huge plague wiping out populations, these atrocious living conditions, and that damned feudalism and Catholicism! We can thank the Europeans for the broadsword, the rifle, the nuclear bomb, the concentration camp, the...
*NYC babbles on until sea knocks him out with a baseball bat*
[sea] it was a male thing.
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HappyDude Posted Nov 30, 2000
I belive the Nuclear Bomb was an american invention ?
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NYC Student - The innocent looking one =P Posted Nov 30, 2000
"...and for all intensive purposes, the USA is considered a European country."
America's natives account for 0.01% of the country's current population. Former Englishmen, Germans, Irish, and Italians account for 65-75% of our population. We are a European nation.
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HappyDude Posted Nov 30, 2000
No your not - many of your citizens are of European decent - however you have gone on to form a culture that is distinctly your own and very un-european.
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NYC Student - The innocent looking one =P Posted Nov 30, 2000
...said the Brit.
just because we're still majorly of British descent, are still 80% Christian, 100% English speaking colonialists (like the old country) who got our political and economic structure by the Brits, we are distinctly different? Not nearly as different as American and... Indian! Not quite as different as American and... Brazilian! Not anywhere in the general VICINITY of the difference between the Americans and the Laotians!
We are Europeans in morals, politics, society and economics. When people come here, they don't just throw their history away, they change America to their liking! Rread up on our history, why don't you...
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- 402: Uncle Heavy [sic] (Nov 29, 2000)
- 403: So Long and Thanks for all the Fish(Deceased) (Nov 29, 2000)
- 404: soeasilyamused, or sea (Nov 29, 2000)
- 405: So Long and Thanks for all the Fish(Deceased) (Nov 29, 2000)
- 406: soeasilyamused, or sea (Nov 29, 2000)
- 407: Uncle Heavy [sic] (Nov 29, 2000)
- 408: Lord Byancbaldich a.k.a. Ancba, posting as Flopsy the Catrabbit coz he's in the Unknown Regions (Nov 29, 2000)
- 409: So Long and Thanks for all the Fish(Deceased) (Nov 29, 2000)
- 410: Yowuzupman- New Top Speed 122 (thats mph you metric fools) (Nov 29, 2000)
- 411: So Long and Thanks for all the Fish(Deceased) (Nov 29, 2000)
- 412: NYC Student - The innocent looking one =P (Nov 30, 2000)
- 413: HappyDude (Nov 30, 2000)
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- 416: NYC Student - The innocent looking one =P (Nov 30, 2000)
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