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Post 561

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

(it is 'danke für deine Hilfe', not 'Hilf', but it fits, 'Hilf!' would be imperativ.smiley - winkeye And it's 'Kannst du mir mit dem Imperativ helfen?')


Ok, I'll trysmiley - smiley

I'll best start with an example:

kommen (to come)

Komm! (come, 2nd person)
Kommt! (come, 2nd person plural)
Kommen Sie! (come, 2nd person complimentary)

The easiest is probably the last one, it's like normal 'Sie kommen' just turned around.smiley - winkeye
Singular leaves away the 'en' in most cases, plural adds an 't'.

like:
spielen, Spiel! Spielt! Spielen Sie! (play)
fangen, Fang! Fangt! Fangen Sie! (catch)
lachen, Lach! Lacht! Lachen Sie! (laugh)

and so on

In some cases the 'e' remains, like:

reden (talk)
Rede! Redet! Reden Sie!


and then there are words which change 'e' to 'i' in 2nd person singular

helfen (to help)
Hilf! Helft! Helfen Sie!
(like also: ich helfe, du hilfst)

essen (to eat)
Iss! Esst! Essen Sie!
(ich esse, du isst)

But you see that the other two stay the same.


Does that help or does it add to the confusion?


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Post 562

dashenka

Hello Tavaron!smiley - biggrin
Thank you for your help! I hope it'll help me..and thank you for your correction! I'll write a German letter to you soon if I can, so you could correct me...smiley - cheerup

Take care,smiley - hug

Bis bald,smiley - tea

Dasha


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Post 563

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

smiley - smiley you're welcome, if you have more questions don't hesitate to ask

bis baldsmiley - hug


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Post 564

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

I'll try to anseer dasha's question from the Speaking Thread:

'Hallo!!

Oops! Kannst Du helfen Mir mit den unregelmaÿigen Verben???

******

Hello!
Oops! Can you help me with the irregular verbs?


Dasha'


What exactly do you want to know, Dasha?




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Post 565

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

I fear the irregular verbs you will have to learn. Each one seperately, because - as they are irregular - you can't form the past out of the present tense, etc.

irregular verbs are for instance

sein (be)
sein - war- gewesen
ich bin - ich war - ich bin gewesen (I am - I was - I have been)
du bist - du warst - du bist gewesen (you are)
er/sie/es ist - er war - er ist gewesen (he is)
wir sind - wir waren - wir sind gewesen (we are)
ihr seid - ihr wart - ihr seid gewesen (you are)
sie seind - sie waren - sie sind gewesen they are)

It's like in English or French or whatever, the only thing you can do is remember every single one. Repeating them over and over again.


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Post 566

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

Dasha
'Lieber Tav!

Danke schon!!
Was ist eine regelmassige Form?

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Dear Tav!

Thank you so much!

What is 'regelmassige Form'??? Can you tell me about them?'


a regular verb woule be

sagen - sagte - gesagt
(say)

lachen - lachte - gelacht
(laugh)

lieben - liebte - geliebt
(love)

You see? You only need the first form and then add -te or ge-. They follow logically, while the irregulars don't.

it is smiley - bluelightNOTsmiley - bluelight schwimmen - schwimmte - geschwimmt (regular), but schwimmen - schwamm - geschwommen (irregular). (to swim)


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Post 567

dashenka

Hallo Tav!smiley - hug

Wie geht es Dir?

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Hello Tav!smiley - cheerup
How are you?

Can you tell me about the difference between 'Starke' and 'Schwache' Verben?? Thank you!!!

Bis bald,smiley - smiley

See you soon,smiley - smiley

Dasha

smiley - scientist

P.s. Danke vielmals fur Deine Hilfe!!smiley - ok
***

Thank you so much for your help!smiley - hug


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Post 568

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

Well, that's basically what I explained in the last posts.


schwache Verben are always built up the same, with -te/-t and ge-
eg:
fragen - fragte - gefragt (ask)
lachen - lachte - gelacht (laugh)
most of them are regular verbs, but not for instance:
denken - dachte - gedacht (think)


starke Verben change vovels in the word
eg:
singen - sang - gesungen (sing)
schwimmen - schwamm - geschwommen
as you can see, here the -te/-t isn't used


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Post 569

dashenka

Liebe Tav!smiley - cheerup
Vielan Dank!!! Du bist cool!!!smiley - kiss

Bis bald,smiley - run

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Dear Tav!smiley - cheerup

Thank you so much! You're cool!

See you!

Dasha


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Post 570

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

smiley - biggrin gern geschen

you're welcome


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Post 571

PaulchenPanther

Hallo Tavaron, smiley - smiley

ich bin auf der Suche nach Lernhinweisen im Internet auf die folgende Adresse gestoßen:

http://www.d-seite.de/index.html

Könntest Du mir bitte sagen, was Du davon hältst?

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Hello Tavaron, smiley - smiley

I came across upon the following link while searching for learning hints in the internet:

http://www.d-seite.de/index.html

Could you to tell me, please, what you are thinking about?


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Post 572

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

Oh, ich denke man kann sicher etwas davon verwenden.smiley - smiley Ein guter Fund.

Oh, I think one can certainly use something of that. A good discovery.


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Post 573

Marinamer

Ich bin Marinamer.
Sie ist Katz


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Post 574

Marinamer

Ich heisse Marinamer.
Ich bin füfundzwanzig Jahre alt.
Sie ist The Language Thing.
Sie ist vierzehn Jahre alt.


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Post 575

Marinamer


Mein Hund ist schön. (My dog is pretty.)
Sein Hund is nicht schön. (His dog is not pretty or His dog is ugly.)
Unsere Spiele ist dumm. (Our game is dumb or foolish.)
Dein Akzent ist Franzosisch. (Your accent is french-like. - referring to his, that's why I wrote Dein intead of Deine.)


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Post 576

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

smiley - smiley hi

Thanks for joinning.

Please remember to translate *every* sentence.
Do you have any questions?smiley - smiley


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Post 577

Marinamer

Hi Tavaron. I take a German course at home but it hasn't been all that satisfactory so maybe you can help me practice all the basic stuff and, if that's okay with you, I would really appreciate it if you could explain cultural aspects from Germany and the other German speaking countries.

I really love learning about culture and I feel that it helps me a lot especially in understanding behavior and things like jokes. Culture should be parted from language learning.

Right now in my course, we are learning about what we do in our free time (Freitzeit). This is what I do:

1. Ich gehe Fisch in León mit meinen Familie essen. (I go eat fish in León with my family.)
2. Ich höre meine Lieblingmusik im der Radio. (I listen to my favorite music on the radio.)
3. Ich esse ein Apfelkuchen mit meinen Freunden oder schauen ein Film.


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Post 578

Marinamer

I meant that CULTURE SHOULD NOT BE PARTED FROM LANGUAGE LEARNING, typo, sorry)smiley - biggrin


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Post 579

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

smiley - smiley hi

I'll be glad to help you, and maybe you should also join the speaking thread to meet the others here.

First let me correct your sentences, in the first you have problems with the word order.
Ich gehe in León mit meiner Familie Fisch essen. (I go to eat fish in León with my family.)
Ich höre meine Lieblingsmusik im Radio. ('der' was too much here) (I listen to my favourite music on the radio.)
Ich esse einen Apfelkuchen mit meinen Freunden oder schaue einen Film. (the genders were wrong here, but genders are always hard to remember, I know) (I eat apple cake with my friends or watch a film.) Or did you mean that you watch a film with your friends? Then it would be 'oder wir schauen einen film' or 'oder wir sehen uns einen Film an'.


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