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Laura Posted Jul 24, 2003
, much appreciated, only one though please, not eated tea yet
Ooooh, a , thanks
I've some if you'd like.
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Mal Posted Jul 24, 2003
Well, the Abrahamic God is omni-omni, and therefore any rule in the known universe must be of his making, and thus self imposed. Unless you have a different version of God I can argue with?
'lo Clare.
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Flying Betty- Now with added nickname tag! Posted Jul 25, 2003
*wanders back in with *
I submit polytheistic religions for debate. They seem to have gone out of style, though. And they split up the godliness so no one was really much of an omni-anything.
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Researcher 185550 Posted Jul 25, 2003
Yes and being omni- omni, he can break the rule, because if he couldn't he wouldn't be omni- omni.
You can look at Classical Theism, which is the Abrahamic version (I think), I posted a link in the lies thread.
Supplication for the UBC
Mal Posted Jul 25, 2003
I've been put off Polytheism by a researcher named Jex attributing everything in his life to them in "God: Fact or Fiction" thread.
He may very well be able to break it, but if he did it would disprove his own power and the rule would become a guideline. Back to the old classic. Can God create a rule even he can't break.
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Researcher 185550 Posted Jul 25, 2003
And create a rock he can't lift, et cetera et cetera.
He wouldn't disprove his own power. Because this is the whole point of it: The rule is self imposed, it is subjective to God. It's like a vow not to eat chocolate. You can break it without causing all sorts of paradoxes.
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Mal Posted Jul 25, 2003
If it's self imposed and he didn't follow it then it wouldn't have been a rule, it would have been a guideline, which is shorthand for a bet, in which case that should have been stated at the beginning, instead of saying rule.
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Researcher 185550 Posted Jul 25, 2003
If it's self- imposed, what if he stops self- imposing it?
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Flying Betty- Now with added nickname tag! Posted Jul 26, 2003
What I'm always afraid of is: if God exists, what if he/she has a bad sense of humor? How else do you explain penguins, dinosaurs, and airplane food?
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Researcher 185550 Posted Jul 26, 2003
God has a sense of humour..... suddenly my life slides into focus.
Well, a sense of humour full stop, I think. I mean, if I was God, I think I might entertain myself by dropping bits of the pacific ocean on people.
Any Pratchett readers here will recognize this:
"God gave humans a sense of humour to make up for giving them sex".
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Flying Betty- Now with added nickname tag! Posted Jul 26, 2003
Yay Terry Pratchett!
And that sort of thing is exactly why I'm afraid. I know if I had ultimate power I'd be tempted to abuse it. I don't see how God wouldn't get bored and start, oh, randomly rearranging local geography some day. ("Gee, where'd that come from? There wasn't a mountain/iceberg/sabre toothed tiger here yesterday!")
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Mooing Platypus (formerly known as Gaia) Posted Jul 26, 2003
well, if there is a sabre toothed tiger there, it's probably some mad geneticists fault not Gods.
(i saw this thing on national geographic about cloning, hwre they said it might be possible to clone extinct animals in the future)
Supplication for the UBC
Mal Posted Jul 26, 2003
You can't un-self-impose a self-imposed rule, or there's no point to it.
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Clare Posted Jul 26, 2003
Why can't you? You imposed it upon yourself, you say (eg) 'I shan't eat any more today.' then 5 mins later you say ..erm, actually, maybe just one last piece If we can do that, why not God?
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