h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Glad you did.

I am not sure about the threadiquette of naming names in conversations like this. It helps to clarify the situation, (Della's behavioiur's like this, tig does that, Lord Wolfden does the other, Oetzie used to dum-de-dum, and so on). But I am very very wary of hosting posts in my journal which would cause others hurt and damage.

Your explanation explained a lot, to me at least.

B

<> (Ben)

Why?

And why do you insist this has been the case? It may have been for you but you seem to be including everyone in your own personal epiphany about it. Again, just wondering why.


az

And I meant to say. I find this group thing quite interesting to. I find myself feeling irritated with Wolfie for example, but once it's become a pack thing to go for him, it feels much easier to make a post attacking him. I try not to get sucked in and just hold onto what I feel as an individual, but what I do find is that it becomes that little bit easier to click that 'Post Message' button. If I'm ruthlessly honest with myself, if I think it's JUST ME feeling angry with someone, it feels harder, depending on my state of mind, because I certainly still do it sometimes

>> Why? (Az)

Um. Why not?

Ok, that isn't an answer.

The answer to 'why?' is in this thread, several times. I'll repeat it, since you ask. It is because I am increasingly of the opinion that what I have seen and to some extent participated in is not ok.

It's an opinion. No more than that. I may be wrong, and it may not be happening. I may be wrong, and it may be ok.



>> And why do you insist this has been the case? (Az)

Do I insist? I hadn't realised that.



>> It may have been for you but you seem to be including everyone in your own personal epiphany about it. Again, just wondering why. (Az)


Um. No. If everyone had an epiphany they'd all agree with me. It's clear that a lot of people don't. There are several posts here saying that hootoo's ok, it's nicer than other places, it isn't a problem, trolls have it coming to them and only get what they deserve, and stuff like that.

Besides which, I don't know if it's an epiphany if it takes a year.

What I *am* doing is saying 'I asked myself about my behaviour, and this is what I found (which might be classed as an epiphany if it's a word you like) and asking in a strictly rhetorical way 'what do you find if you do the same?'. Redpeckham's had the grace to answer, though it is a rhetorical question.

Consider it to be no more than invitation to compare bogies, or naval fluff, or ear wax. (Mine are green, blue and brown in that order)

B

My bogies are now white (they used to be brown ), my naval (sic) fluff is, of course battleship grey and my ear wax is Wensleydale.

SoRB

Well, you don't think I keep sailors in my belly button, do you?

Brown, dark blue and see through.

See through ear wax?

*reaches for the Q-tips*

... And just as I was gearing up to unlurk, and try to post, the tread goes all



I still find it hard to express my feelings here. I, like many others, have been annoyed, by the seeming poor social skills and unthinking, unfeeling posting by a fellow hootizen. I have made posts making it clear. I tried to open my eyes and have a dialogue, rather than fuelling the fire. I also tried to politely explain that I could understand the hootizens view, but that the style of posting could invite hostility. I was attacked for hostility, in my effort to make threads less hostile. I tried to hold a light neutral conversation, but got 'slapped' for being hostile. And now I do as many others - ignore. It is sad. I unsubbed and now follow fewer threads, and 'meet' fewer different other hootizens, which is a loss. But at least I get less upset.

A slightly different thought, about pre-moderation.
If the quarantine for pre-mod posts were 24 hours, or even more, rather than 'as short as possible': Might that make the pre-mod posts easier to ignore? And make the poster resist posting - because when the post finally shows up, the thread has moved on significantly and it is even more likely that those posts are ignored?

There were a few brave posts in the backlog - some people with bad reputation admitted that they earned it and have made big efforts to change. I wish that where it is due, it happens, and that we all have the guts to see where it really is due and where it is not.

Milla

Thankyou for that input SoRB... I shall sleep safely tonight knowing that you have white bogies...

Mr. Dreadful
Clear with green bits, dark grey and yellow.

It's alright for you lot, I was eating my breakfast when I got to that part of the thread this morning.

Yellow ear wax? I'm getting sorrier and sorrier that I asked, with every post.

B

Of course yellow! (see through yellow)

Still I find it can be a very dark shade of "Dysintery beige"...

A friend once refered to (vis-a-vis drug taking) 'telltale white crustaceans around the nose'. The image has stayed with me since.

Crustaceans? Crusts at least, but seafood?

So, what your friend is saying, Edward, is that drugs give you crabs...

I should point out that my bogeys used to be brown because I was chief engineer in a chocolate factory and that cocoa powder gets *everywhere*.

I now work at a plant making PTFE, which is white.



He might have meant "crustations", which while not, as far as I'm aware, actually a word, makes more sense than "crustaceans".

SoRB

After a weekend's LARPing my bogies are black, and I have sand in my ears and bellybutton.