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? Posted Sep 13, 2003
Privacy, yes it's a good thing. Intimacy, yes, that is a good thing, too! Defense it is good to be able to provide one. Acceptance may also be a worthy way of being.
As you have said, here and there, you are - without quibbling about blood quantums and what constitues true nativity - 4/4ths of what you identify yourself as in this time. It is courageous of you to acknowledge your need to be discriminatory. However, that statement of fact does not make it a good way to be. Given the principals I feel fairly certain - though, as usual, not quite sure - that we hold in common about our place in the scheme of things, it seems distinctly wierd. Believe me I do clearly understand that self-preservation and extinction are haunts that lurk menacingly in the mind.
Indeed, which of us, if any at all, is a member of some one unique tribe? Is it a good thing to be that or aspire to such? Is it not better for the survival of us all - to give a very broad perhaps gross example - to broaden the gene pool; it can be accomplished without giving up what is of worth, don't you think, objectively? What's to say that your child will not be 8/8ths and your child’s child will not be 16/16th? Will those perforce be bad things? Is it not far more important to find commonality and build with it?
The haves are singing the 'Internationale' loud and clear amongst themselves. Too they have completely accepted socialism in that if ever there is a loss it is always socialized, to whit, the S&L fiasco in the USA. Does it not behoove the resistance to create binding ties amongst the like-minded and to be inclusive? How does this mean dishonoring family or culture or values that each of us holds precious if we share these amongst the like-minded or those who can be among the like-minded? I would, once more, commend the movie from NZ, "Whale Rider" or better yet, though a little more abstract, "Step Into Liquid," for your consideration, therefore.
Exclusivity is a dangerous thing and a tool that allows the haves to forever perpetuate their power and control. For they know they can scoop up whoever, whenever and set one against the other with equal facility. Somewhere I mentioned Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" for such a reason.
True movies, a few of the better ones, are a reflection of society and not the other way around. However, they can be instructive in that one might see what one took for granted in a slightly different way, lateral thinking, maybe.
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David Conway Posted Sep 13, 2003
Okay, I've looked around the web a bit, ?.
It looks like that golf course, about 20 - 25 miles north of Las Vegas, was built in 1995 and is doing reasonably well. Golf courses need a lot of water, and Nevada isn't exactly noted for its copious supply of water, but it seems to be working so far.
Now, as for the specific idea of nomad vehicle parking lots and tourist huts and such... If the area to be "touristed" isn't the rez itself, but some other nearby tourist area, there could be some possibilities there... especially if a shuttle bus service was made available from the parking lot/tourist hut area to the primary toursit attraction, and that service was either free or very inexpensive. Money could be made from the rentals and 10 - 15 tourists in one bus use less gasoline and emit fewer pollutants than 10 - 15 toursits in 10 -15 cars. Of course, the greater the distance from an existing tourist attraction, the lower the possibility that it will work out.
If the area to be "touristed" is on the rez itself, there has to be a way to keep those tourists from inflicting themselves on people who just want to live their lives and not have to deal with swarms of Others who don't or won't understand their ways and will disrupt everybody's life.
That's the best I can offer without having a lot more information on the who and where behind your queston, ?.
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crazyhorse Posted Sep 13, 2003
for me golf course conjurs up a reminder of the candian fiasco wheregy a golf course was proposed for the traditional berial grounds of the nohawk a few years back,,,if i'm not mistaken it resulted in the barricading of the u.s.canadian border
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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!! Posted Sep 13, 2003
Oh my, crazyhorse. I forgot for a minute you couldn't read links. So just so you don't get left out..
Come on now guys, sing along..
Ding along..
Ring along..
Strum those silly weirdy chords,
looking all around..
Looking for resolution..
A tonical solution..
We got the ideas,
they're really sounding great..
The execution sort of sucks,
I guess that's only fate.
Stop squishing all the mud you grasp
the gunk that's in your hand
cuz it squeezes through your fingers
and it drops upon the sand..
And washes down the creek a piece..
swirling all away..
in the eddies and the rapids
of just living day to day..
So why not just break for now..
giving it a rest?
Cracking at a bottle
and giving it our best?
Cuz sometimes what they call it..
the breakdown of my nerves
can lead to better things I think
shamantic epiphanies that link
the shadows of the leaves that stink
in piles on the clay..
Oh yodeeohdoh!!
Oh yodeeohdie eeyie eeyo..
I want to get so close to you
but you won't leave me alone.
Come on home!
And light a fire.
It takes a few to make a stew,
illuminate desire,
resolve discordant ire,
evolve into the mire
identify the liar.
Come on home!
Come on home!
Oh yeaaaaaaah!!
Native Communism
? Posted Sep 14, 2003
oh whiiinnneeeee ya moved it all again? welllll, hope you got a better deal. so it goes...
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crazyhorse Posted Sep 14, 2003
i just subscribed to that redcomedy i dunnae what they will send me through email guess i'll just have to wait and see
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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!! Posted Sep 14, 2003
Well somebody made it. I'm not sure which one it is but if you subscribed by email you should get some sort of confirmation and request to validate your email addy.
Joining through the browser ain't that big of a deal if you're already a member of Yahoo but if you're not it might get a little confusing sometimes.
Anyways, anybody can post actually. Members get to do file sharing, polls, chat, or similar stuff that's all although that's more than you can do here. I think the messages might support html coding too and if that's true you might be able to upload images and reference them inline. I'll have to play around with that and see what happens.
Maybe we should start an RCO Edited Guide and see if anybody else wants to play. Get your stuff published after peer review. Do we got any peers who want to shred somebody? Come to think of it do we have any peers who want to get shredded? With no italics it might get interesting. You never know.
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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!! Posted Sep 14, 2003
Sure why not? Sometimes things get too affable or whatever and people spend more time crafting their diplomacy than their thoughts.
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Researcher 185550 Posted Sep 14, 2003
This is certainly true. But one should not be insulting for the sake of being insulting- if accuracy is insulting, then keep with that. If accuracy is complimentary, keep with that too.
However I find it ironic that while you do say that insulting is absolutely fine, you still replace it with the euphemism "interesting" in your post .
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crazyhorse Posted Sep 14, 2003
i think anyone worried about insulting or being insulted should avoid posting at all f"ck em if they cant take a joke
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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!! Posted Sep 14, 2003
I find it interesting that you replaced it in my post, Roadkill, and then when I agreed with that connotation you found it interesting again as if I thought of it, which I didn't.
Interesting means interesting and sometimes insults are interesting too, but that doesn't mean interesting means insulting. Of course some insulters get pretty boring sometimes because they don't even try to be clever about it. However, if you want to preserve free speech you take the boring with the interesting.
Native Communism
? Posted Sep 15, 2003
interesting ... it's such a non communicative word, so neutral, so slippery, so vague, so indistinct, so non committal, so witnout value, so easy to insert, so open to interpretation, so difficult, so not open to pinning down, ... so interesting!
to borrow from an ancient statement "don't we live in interesting times ... humm?"
Native Communism
? Posted Sep 16, 2003
in that case, my dear chap, to quote the ancient asian saying: "may you live in interesting times!"
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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!! Posted Sep 16, 2003
I think we already live in interesting times although that's probably something most people have thought no matter when they've lived, except for the ones who were bored and wished for more interesting times. Sometimes they got out of hand implementing their wishes though.
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